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#123294 2-Jul-2013 16:04

Does anyone know if Chorus have any schedules (that are public) of upgrades from exchanges that are ADSL1?

Our local exchange which had ADSL installed just over 5 years ago is only ADSL1 and nothing I can find shows if there are any plans to update to ADSL2 or better.

Thanks in advance.

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#848309 2-Jul-2013 16:04

What exchange and approx where are you?

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#848310 2-Jul-2013 16:07

Eureka.

We are a RBI area and I suspect the answer is "nothing planned" but trying to find out if there are plans to replace ADSL1 with ADSL2 gear or similar at any stage.

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#848311 2-Jul-2013 16:09

Punch your address into http://www.chorus.co.nz/maps

Turn on the RBI Layer.

Or you could look at this map http://www.telco2.co.nz/rbicabinets.html

It's all on the Chorus site.

Or you can email me your home address pl at telecom.co.nz and I will lookup your address in the chorus internal version of /maps.

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#848347 2-Jul-2013 17:26

I looked at this a while ago for somebody - alas no upgrade in site for Eureka. Just RBI wireless coverage.

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#855133 14-Jul-2013 01:45

does anyone know what would need to be done or petitioned if we were wanting to try get adsl2 upgrade/vdsl upgrade from a alcatel 7300 exchange?? I know the 7302 gets it..... I live in dunsandel in the selwyn district. In dunsandel unfortunately we are covered technically under the RBI, however their are quite a few hundred houses very close to the exchange which does technically have chorus backbone fiber feeding into to then run off to the school. I Personally find it rude when the township are all very close together and even if they did cut across one road, they have many alternative paths with minimal traffic, it would not even cause a problem. however i am going off topic...

So was originally looking at seeing if we could get fiber rolled out within the township, however adsl2 and vdsl2 would be still an acceptable type of upgrade without much costs.

1 last question is, if vodafone are using wifi for this exchange under ufb roll out, will it always be with adsl1 or will they upgrade to adsl2 and still offer those ridiculous wifi plans

cheers guys

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#855142 14-Jul-2013 06:01

ashvegas: if Vodafone are using wifi for this exchange under ufb roll out, will it always be with adsl1 or will they upgrade to adsl2 and still offer those ridiculous wifi plans

cheers guys

Sorry can you please explain the WIFI part?

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#855143 14-Jul-2013 06:16

ashvegas: does anyone know what would need to be done or petitioned if we were wanting to try get adsl2 upgrade/vdsl upgrade from a alcatel 7300 exchange?? I know the 7302 gets it..... I live in dunsandel in the selwyn district. In dunsandel unfortunately we are covered technically under the RBI, however their are quite a few hundred houses very close to the exchange which does technically have chorus backbone fiber feeding into to then run off to the school. I Personally find it rude when the township are all very close together and even if they did cut across one road, they have many alternative paths with minimal traffic, it would not even cause a problem. however i am going off topic...

So was originally looking at seeing if we could get fiber rolled out within the township, however adsl2 and vdsl2 would be still an acceptable type of upgrade without much costs.

1 last question is, if vodafone are using wifi for this exchange under ufb roll out, will it always be with adsl1 or will they upgrade to adsl2 and still offer those ridiculous wifi plans

cheers guys

The typical install cost of a cabinet is around 150k give or take a bit. If it's rural then there would also be trenching in the new fibre as there is minimum spec requirements for a isam (7302) which is much higher than a single school or the Vodafone rbi backhaul.

If you feel that you and the rest of the town want to have a whip round and secure the funding then I know a few contacts in Chorus or you could PM the ChorusVan account here and ask their response.

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#855158 14-Jul-2013 09:54

The long term solution for many rural areas of NZ is wireless, not fixed line. If you're somewhere that isn't getting an RBI ISAM upgrade, then you're more than likely in a wireless RBI coverage area.

RBI is not WiFi, it uses 3G (and ultimately 4G) technology. As the pricing of the RBI wireless solution is a regulated offering with wholesale pricing set by the Commerce Commission and pricing related issues need to be addressed at them, not the ISP's offering services.

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#855169 14-Jul-2013 10:25

RBI 3G now is Dual carrier

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#858160 17-Jul-2013 17:00

Sorry was away till today. Additionally apologies for referring to it as wifi, it was 5am when i posted that reply, should have been sleeping lol

I do not think I will go around trying to raise 150k to pay for chorus to upgrade our exchange....

I was mainly referring to the point that even tho Dunsandel is considered as "rural" Their are quite a few hundred houses still very close together in a normal suburban style, on and just off State Highway 1. They will be running on adsl1 connections to the exchange. Now yes I would agree, if you are quite far away from the "township" I would 100% agree with RBI being their go to option, I have a friend in that situation who couldn't get any broadband so for him its perfect, he also is on a farm with 800+ cows and is like a 10minute drive from the township so he is the class of residents who would benefit and should be referred to this as their solution.

For the people who have a current adsl1 connection in close proximity to the exchange, they should be looking at upgrading the exchange to adsl2 at the minimum.

Surely their must be another option other then basically being told i need to raise the money myself. my next step would be looking at a meeting with the selwyn mp Amy Adams possible. However would like to see options outside of this before i go down that path

Use chorus coverage maps and check out dunsandel, look at the geographics of it. It is not your normal rural town, everything in the township is very close by.

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#858261 17-Jul-2013 19:07

There are actually quite a number of cabinets going in that entire Canterbury area, but no more of the Dunsansal exchange than the one that's already in place which does offer VDSL2 to a select few people close enough to it.

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#858276 17-Jul-2013 19:29

Dunsansal is right on SH 1, probably with fibre running right through, and a bit bigger. A bit different to Eureka.

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#858399 18-Jul-2013 01:33

I live 100 metres from the exchange. I Can assure you vdsl is not available in dunsandel...I have also done broadband prequalifications in wireline in chorus... additionally you wont have adsl1 from the exchange if vdsl is available. you would. be adsl2/vdsl2

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#858411 18-Jul-2013 07:41

ashvegas: I live 100 metres from the exchange. I Can assure you vdsl is not available in dunsandel...I have also done broadband prequalifications in wireline in chorus... additionally you wont have adsl1 from the exchange if vdsl is available. you would. be adsl2/vdsl2

I didn't mean VDSL2 was available from the exchange, I meant it's available from the DSD/A cabinet which is on the South side of the town.

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#858450 18-Jul-2013 09:50

Unfortunately I suspect the economic reality of it is, it would require pretty much all of the village to sign up to a 2-year contract with VDSL with the provider pushing the funding just to cover initial install costs. You'd likely need to find some way to get local council etc to subsidise it, or if there are any larger clients who could offset much of the cost, it may be viable I guess.

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