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Topic # 127528 13-Aug-2013 17:49
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July report includes more new data, Latency from USA, Australia and Wellington - Auckland next month

DNS comparison is also included

www.truenet.co.nz for the full details, but here is a summary:


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  Reply # 876654 13-Aug-2013 18:21
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Clearly Vodafone don't get their "fact-based" data from Truenet ;)

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  Reply # 876690 13-Aug-2013 19:17
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JamesL: Clearly Vodafone don't get their "fact-based" data from Truenet ;)


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  Reply # 876699 13-Aug-2013 19:28
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JamesL: Clearly Vodafone don't get their "fact-based" data from Truenet ;)


I'm amazed VF scores as highly as they do on the Truenet results. Maybe I've just had bad luck with them.

On a more on-topic note, what's the situation with including more ISPs on VDSL/Fibre stats? Need more volunteers for it, or?




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  Reply # 876701 13-Aug-2013 19:30
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That drop in peak time VDSL performance is interesting to me. I'm looking forward to seeing some Telecom VDSL figures on there though.

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  Reply # 876703 13-Aug-2013 19:38
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JamesL: Clearly Vodafone don't get their "fact-based" data from Truenet ;)

On the ongoing quest to discover what exactly is SUPERNET, we seem to have eliminated it being "super". The team still continues to investigate the aspect of whether it is "net" or not.

There have been mixed reports of peoples internet performance routed through such an abstract marketing campaign, and isolated incidents of some capes magically appearing on some website images.

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  Reply # 876708 13-Aug-2013 19:44
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Why Telecom have highest latency? And page load time slowest as well. What happened with Telecom?





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  Reply # 876711 13-Aug-2013 19:50
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So although Vodafone are at the bottom of the stats for rated speed their page load times are second fastest..... I haven't read the full report. Is the answer as to why in the full article?




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  Reply # 876713 13-Aug-2013 19:54
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JohnButt: July report includes more new data, Latency from USA, Australia and Wellington - Auckland next month


Where in the USA are you measuring latency to?  Best-case round trip from my router (on Vodafone Cable, just plugged in a shiny new TrueNet box this afternoon) to my VPS in LA is 143ms (average 160ms).

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  Reply # 876714 13-Aug-2013 19:56
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Kirdog: Why Telecom have highest latency? And page load time slowest as well. What happened with Telecom?



To be honest I wonder if this is partly related to Telecom being the largest ISP by customer volume, and being in some cases the 'default' ISP for people who've just gone 'my phones with Telecom so we use them'. Also, I don't know how TrueNet volunteers are picked or balanced (I presume there is some balancing across ISPs), or how many there are - in a small sample size, one bad connection could throw things out considerably for example. I'd love to have some more detail on specifically what is tested (for example, what the endpoint for the AU latency test is) to see how my own connection stacks up.

Also, I note the TrueNet page itself is particularly slow for Telecom, where the other page load results are not as significantly different, but it means the overall result is even worse than it would otherwise look. This seems to be related to it routing via 3 Telecom internal hops before hitting wix.net.nz, whereas from, say, a Vodafone connection, there seems to be 1 internal hop.




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  Reply # 876724 13-Aug-2013 20:02
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hairy1: So although Vodafone are at the bottom of the stats for rated speed their page load times are second fastest..... I haven't read the full report. Is the answer as to why in the full article?


You will rarely get anywhere near full utilization on even an ADSL connection to load a page. Latency and caching have more to do with it. a 4Mbps connection with low latency and low packet loss will feel more responsive for web browsing than a 40Mbps connection with high latency and high packet loss, for example. So, they do not achieve the same peak throughput, but their usable responsiveness for loading web pages is good.




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  Reply # 876765 13-Aug-2013 21:31
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sidefx: That drop in peak time VDSL performance is interesting to me. I'm looking forward to seeing some Telecom VDSL figures on there though.


For most people who have switched to VDSL from ADSL, that drop in peak time performance wouldnt even be a problem as the speed is still way above anything they have had in the past and they wouldnt even notice the drop off




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  Reply # 876775 13-Aug-2013 21:55
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vexxxboy:
For most people who have switched to VDSL from ADSL, that drop in peak time performance wouldnt even be a problem as the speed is still way above anything they have had in the past and they wouldnt even notice the drop off


Very true, just interesting that it *seems* a fair bit higher than the drops seen in ADSL for the same ISPs. Perhaps a function of the fairly small sized test "files" truenet uses?

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  Reply # 876811 14-Aug-2013 00:21
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Kirdog: Why Telecom have highest latency? And page load time slowest as well. What happened with Telecom?


Most likely interleaving on by default on lots of their old plans where as other ISP always defaulted to off.

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  Reply # 876819 14-Aug-2013 00:42
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Ragnor:
Kirdog: Why Telecom have highest latency? And page load time slowest as well. What happened with Telecom?


Most likely interleaving on by default on lots of their old plans where as other ISP always defaulted to off.


Nope, i don't have interleaving on. 

Even with this i have high latency to the Australia, but 2 years ago it was low. 

2 years ago: 67-70ms.
Now: 113-130 ms. 

sad :<




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  Reply # 876824 14-Aug-2013 00:57
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Kirdog:
Ragnor:
Kirdog: Why Telecom have highest latency? And page load time slowest as well. What happened with Telecom?


Most likely interleaving on by default on lots of their old plans where as other ISP always defaulted to off.


Nope, i don't have interleaving on. 

Even with this i have high latency to the Australia, but 2 years ago it was low. 

2 years ago: 67-70ms.
Now: 113-130 ms. 

sad :<


have you considered peering to that host? (assuming your talking a certain host/DC) thoses pings dont sound right at all.

family member has a telecom connection, with a conservative interleaving profile set, still doesnt break 100.  this is properly due in another thread though.



john, what is the testing process and the calculations for speeds weighted on?  is it a min/max calcuation from tests? large enough files to test the connection fully?




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