Brand new apartment block in UFB zone but still wired with copper?

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#128685 19-Aug-2013 21:21

Have a look on 64 Surrey Cres, Greylynn on the Chorus Sat. There's 3 properties there right in the middle of a UFB zone which cant get UFB, I assume thats because they are apartment blocks with copper installed, once block is brand new just finished around 8 weeks ago, the other two are still in construction. A customer of mine has just moved into one of the new apartments and the only option is ADSL/VDSL, why didn't the developers start with fibre right from the beginning?

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#881256 19-Aug-2013 21:29

When has a developer ever done any more than the bare minimum?

I would love to see chorus refuse to deploy copper into the new one and leave the developer up xxxx creek and having to reticulate fiber thruout the property.

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#881263 19-Aug-2013 21:40

If it is in a UFB area I am surprised Chorus even installed a copper demarcation.
Their general thing now is that if a property is in a UFB zone they won't cut in copper if there isn't copper in place already.

I can see this building being picked up by someone who wants to install a DSLAM or ISAM and servicing the building that way.

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#881920 21-Aug-2013 00:37

Doesnt fibre-only break some sort of universal service agreement as telecom hasnt got the phonelines over fibre sorted out yet?

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#881923 21-Aug-2013 00:48

richms: When has a developer ever done any more than the bare minimum?

So true. Just wish the standards were higher for many things, including this

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#881924 21-Aug-2013 00:53

chevrolux: If it is in a UFB area I am surprised Chorus even installed a copper demarcation.
Their general thing now is that if a property is in a UFB zone they won't cut in copper if there isn't copper in place already.

I can see this building being picked up by someone who wants to install a DSLAM or ISAM and servicing the building that way.

Yea i thought chorus was phasing out copper....weird.

raytaylor: Doesnt fibre-only break some sort of universal
service agreement as telecom hasnt got the phonelines over fibre sorted
out yet?

We moved into a fibre only zone ,was funny when telecom told us that.... " we can give you fibre, but no phone " HUH?

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#881950 21-Aug-2013 08:15

Doesnt fibre-only break some sort of universal service agreement as telecom hasnt got the phonelines over fibre sorted out yet?

Maybe it does but Telecom can't do much if Chorus refuse to put copper in.

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#881977 21-Aug-2013 08:51

chevrolux:

Doesnt fibre-only break some sort of universal service agreement as telecom hasnt got the phonelines over fibre sorted out yet?

Maybe it does but Telecom can't do much if Chorus refuse to put copper in.

I think a lot of the Kiwishare got thrown out the window after demerger and fibre got made the norm by CFH.

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#882205 21-Aug-2013 14:56

For some reason the map shapefile carves out the property under discussion (falsley giving some folks the impression that UFB is not available). Will get the "coulouring-in team" to get the crayons out and fix it. UFB will definitely be available at this address

The developer has chosen to reticulate the development with copper. This option would not be available in a "greenfields" subdivision as has been pointed out by some posters, but as there is already copper in the ground outside the building, and there is a VDSL capable cabinet serving this property - this is a pragmatic choice for the developer to make in this instance.

An order requesting UFB service, from an RSP, for a resident in the building would kick-off the Chorus MDU build process, just as in any other central city apartment building.