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Topic # 13499 13-May-2007 15:35
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looked at this old post from last October http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=9725 to see what has changed. (I have changed to the flood plan at World exchange which is faster and cheaper ). $10 Broadband looks no closer and my prediction of  naked DSL priced at $40 hasn't happened. Any guesses for the next 6 months or so?
cheers, George

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  Reply # 70593 13-May-2007 21:08
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6 months - no change
12 months - naked DSL that will be nearly as expensive as the clothed stuff, which, by the time you buy an ATA and pay a monthly fee to a voip service, will be not that much better (pricewise) than the status quo. (But better voice features and toll pricing!!)









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  Reply # 70737 15-May-2007 09:55
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I think you may be right. $10 Broadband may become $10 Telephone service. Telecoms 6000 minutes for  $25 looks more attractive than Xnet VFX no rental and 5c per minute (500 minutes for $25) at present so I will stick with my POTS number meantime. Early days I know but number porting info out today suggests others are doing likewise. cheers George
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4058846a18335.html
PS...A  hell of a price to pay so you can take your business elsewhere??

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  Reply # 70740 15-May-2007 10:20
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Analysis at this early stage of the number of customers who have taken their phone number to another provider is pretty much a pointless exercise.

Number Portability hasn't exactly been widely promoted by anybody and in any case, it won't really gain momentum until VoIP reaches the next stage of its uptake i.e. moving into the mainstream community.  That is unlikely to happen until we get Naked DSL, and so on...

Another thing that would spur people on to change provider is if we had 2 competing GSM/UMTS networks so people didn't need to buy any hardware in order to change their mobile provider.  The jury is still well and truly out on whether that will happen.

The important thing to keep in mind with Number Portability is that it's a transfer of a property right:

The Telco doesn't own your phone number -- YOU DO, at least for as long as you want it, and regardless of the provider you choose.

This is of vital importance to businesses who have invested a lot of money in printed stationery, business cards and other advertising materials.  Not to mention in the minds of their customers who have called them on the same phone number for years.

A similar but less monetarily valuable property right attaches to private residents who have had the same phone number for years.  It's a convenience thing, and there is now no reason why you cannot keep the same phone number wherever you move within the same free calling area.



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  Reply # 70741 15-May-2007 11:00
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The point I am trying to make is that the number one  reason for me  (and probably most others) to port my number whether my POTS or mobile number will come down to economics. (ie) the new provider has to offer something better and cheaper . The POTS voip providers  dont offer anything attractive to me at the moment...note at the moment...
The article drew my attention to the cost being borne by the Telcos ($100m) so I can do what choose with my number. (ie) a doubtful investment for large players unless they drop prices.. I will watch with interest to see some competive pricing. cheers George

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  Reply # 70744 15-May-2007 11:22
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Since number portability we am saving around $60 per month on our phone/ broadband bill. $50 per month for Compass Wireless 5 GB, $11.25 for my line rental for VFX from World Exchange (not being billed for yet! Laughing) and 5 cent/min toll calls. In addition I have heaps of smart phone services like caller ID and the call quality is great. Number portability worked for me!




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  Reply # 70746 15-May-2007 11:43
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Hi, it works for you as you dont have any Telecom bill at all and your toll call amount must be low. Unfortunately 
wireless is not an available option in my area so I am stuck with  my $50 Telecom bill. cheers George

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  Reply # 70749 15-May-2007 11:47
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Yeah. That is the problem. Getting away from that telecom landline. The big thing that will make or break cheaper phone bills will be the naked dsl price....




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