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# 14076 13-Jun-2007 20:25
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Anyone else been getting slow downloads outside of NZ?

I'm getting high speeds in NZ, but even to Aus is Frown, but my ping is still half decent??

It's worse around 5-9 at night.

Im with Orcon too.

6/13/2007 8:16 AM GMT 497 kb/s 303 kb/s 175 ms Los Angeles, CA ~ 6550 mi
6/13/2007 8:15 AM GMT 491 kb/s 342 kb/s 133 ms Sydney ~ 1350 mi

6/13/2007 8:13 AM GMT 5763 kb/s 597 kb/s 16 ms Auckland < 50 mi

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Ultimate Geek

  # 74589 13-Jun-2007 22:27
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For you to compare:  I'm on Xnet, River Plan (FS/128kbps).

10:27pm when doing the speedtest....

Auckland:  3109kbps / 127kbps
Los Angeles:  2011kbps / 124kbps
Sydney:  3231kbps / 124kbps

Hmm, a very very good day...  Normally, mine's around 2Mbps downstream....  And international speeds around 1.5Mbps down....

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Master Geek

  # 74728 14-Jun-2007 21:10
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from tonight 7pm ish the ping is horrible from speedtest, slightly better in games

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6/14/2007 7:56 AM GMT 3926 kb/s 130 kb/s 204 ms Sydney ~ 1350 mi Click To Share

6/14/2007 7:55 AM GMT 4759 kb/s 130 kb/s 182 ms Auckland < 50 mi Click To Share

6/14/2007 7:54 AM GMT 2670 kb/s 126 kb/s 430 ms Los Angeles, CA ~ 6550 mi Click To Share

slingshot max/128


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Master Geek

  # 75721 23-Jun-2007 16:43
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I remember overseas access used to be fast for the first few months after changing from Blink 256 to Broadband Lite 2M. But this week in particular has been awfully slow. Accessing sites like Wikipedia takes half a minute or more to fully load the page. My experience in general is accessing sites in Europe is the worst, not only high latency, but also much lower transfer rate. That probably also explains why accessing HSBC's website is so slow, I suspect HSBC's web server is located in Europe, accessing their online banking site has always been very slow.

Downloading from Australia is fast, but not as fast as it used to be. 3~4 months ago I could download at 300~400KiB/s, now I get speeds ranging from tens to a bit more than 200KiB/s. Very disappointing.

By the way your latency for local connection seems extremely low, I use ihug, pinging their DNS server gives me an average latency of 60ms (I live on North Shore). I've never got anything lower than that.

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Master Geek

# 76760 3-Jul-2007 17:48
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Our broadband speeds are fine, but our friends are shocking, and they pay more for their Orcon plan than we do.

We just did a bunch of tests via (please, do same and post results? Use the San Fran server to compare with these - not Auckland!)

Our friend, on Orcon Max/Max, Zeroshock plan. Based in Grey Lynn/Ponsonby area:

Ours, on Orcon Max/128K, 15GB plan. Based in Waiatarua:

The above comparisons were pretty even using the Auckland server. It's only international that shows the variation between his (top two) and ours (bottom). So ... is there something about zeroshock that affects international traffic?? or is it the locality (surely not, for an issue with international traffic)

Note that my speed is higher, but his latency is lower. Whack de do. They aren't bandwidth limited (haven't even touched 2GB on their plan). Does "Zeroshock" really mean "we won't shock you with your load speeds"?

Orcon tried to fob our mate off with some "we're upgrading the software" nonsense. Any thoughts? And (since Orcon's support also seems to have gone down the gurgler of late), any positive recommendations on alternatives? I'd be looking for: good domain control panel, reliable service, responsive support.

Those three points were why I recommended Orcon ... until now. I've recommended Orcon to a number of businesses over the last few years, but Orcon's performance is dropping fast, and I'm now fielding enquiries from those same businesses asking who I recommend they switch to.

Including "So, should we switch back to Xtra?" ... eek!

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Master Geek

  # 76761 3-Jul-2007 17:49
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Um, I meant "Our friend's broadband speeds are shocking". Not "Our friends are shocking." Heh.

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Uber Geek

  # 76791 3-Jul-2007 19:37
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Heh, beats my xtra (Pro) connection using

Country                        Ping                        Distance                         Upload                        Download
Auckland                       96                           650miles                        610                           5568
Sydney                         102                          1300Miles                       602                           1267
Los, CA                         322                         7100Miles                       545                            117

Yes, WTF data to america, My upload is like 5 times faster! WTF?! Man pings are excuseable as im on wifi(but only about 2 meters away from the router)

Why have they limited download to america...Complete bs! I pay lots of money just to have no limits...and yet they give me some throttled bs

When the itunes store first was available in nz, I could download a song in 10-15 seconds...Now takes minutes, thought it was iTunes, but no just telecom FFS

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Master Geek

  # 76840 4-Jul-2007 08:14
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Perhaps this is our Glorious Leader's attempt to kowtow to China after bumping into the Dalai Lama unexpectedly.

"Well, I don't know if we can block all of America. But we could make it really, annoyingly SLOW. They'll never guess!"

Which would you prefer? Don't let the health minister in on it, she'll ban ryegrass (it's a drug you know) and then dose our bread with Communism.

"It's for your own good, children."

PS. I'm a lefty, but these guys in government are bananas!


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Uber Geek

  # 76858 4-Jul-2007 10:45
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Lol national wouldn't do much about broadband either...

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Master Geek

  # 76911 4-Jul-2007 16:00
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OT: I think they got their IT policy from the Exclusive Brethren, didn't they?

So ... How are your Test your Internet connection speed at results today, folks? Any Orcon readers who can concur or give input onto the results above? Or Orcon/other ISP techs (yes, we CAN see you reading this) who know why this is going on?

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Ultimate Geek


  # 76926 4-Jul-2007 17:30
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Around 17:30 on Xtra Explorer...

Country                        Ping                        Distance                         Upload                        Download
Auckland                       74                           <50miles                        135                            3824
Sydney                         111                          1350miles                       135                           4092
Los, CA                         234                         6550miles                       133                            2610

Will test again after baby bath & bed session.

Drac mate, sure it's not that dodgy beta you're playing?  (or is it those other dodgy downloads) Tongue out

Post-geek, opinionated mediaphile, and natural born cynic. Jack of all genres, master of none.

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Master Geek

  # 76927 4-Jul-2007 17:38
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Back on topic ... ADSL has been crap today (line noise, I live in the bush and it's raining hard). But still the results are fair at worst. The router has been dropping on and off, so lots of DNS errors, then it all works again a minute later. Whatever. I've got plenty of toys at home to play with anyway (yay for Xen).

Earlier I talked to Orcon and they said, yes, Zeroshock sucks at the moment because a few Zeroshock customers consume all the international bandwidth. They are moving those customers off to regular plans (hopefully that doesn't mean those of us on non-Zeroshock plans can expect to see those same customers hammer OUR bandwidth availability when this happens). But they can't switch my the slow connection over to another plan for over two weeks, despite the current poor performance. F*.

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Ultimate Geek


  # 76937 4-Jul-2007 18:49
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And later on...

Post-geek, opinionated mediaphile, and natural born cynic. Jack of all genres, master of none.

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Master Geek

  # 76994 5-Jul-2007 09:17
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Bloody hell! Go Masterton! Hehehe ...

Found this page which gives the per-ISP breakdowns for NZ (can search lots more than just NZ of course).

But with such marked discrepancies between pools (eg Zeroshock verus the rest with Orcon), are these numbers all that meaningful?

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