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#14553 9-Jul-2007 16:07
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Things are start to move and the ISPs are now opening their games. There are rumours Xtra will offer a VoIP service, but the first I see confirming anything is Orcon with this press release today:


Orcon to offer Naked Broadband and VoIP in September
Internet and telecommunications provider Orcon has today announced that it will be launching a Naked DSL broadband product in September, allowing users to have broadband without having to pay a monthly line rental for telephone service.

Currently, in order to get broadband in New Zealand, you must pay a line rental for your analogue telephone service, in addition to your monthly broadband fee. With Naked DSL there is no longer a requirement to do this.

"There are a surprising number of customers for whom an analogue telephone line has very little value, or who have a strong desire to move to VoIP telephone solutions. We are very pleased that industry pressure has paid off, and we will be able to offer these customers a stand-alone broadband solution in a matter of months" said Scott Bartlett, Chief Executive of Orcon.

Customers are able to continue making phone calls using a VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) service. Orcon has previously announced that they will be launching such a service, deployed on their new Siemens soft-switch, between now and the launch of Naked Broadband.

"While the pricing for our VoIP product, DigitalVoice, is currently being finalised, I can assure you that we will be offering rates substantially lower than current toll calling prices offered by our competitors" continued Bartlett.

There is currently a lot of confusion surrounding VoIP services, particularly the quality of calling.

"It is important not to confuse free or near free internet telephony services such as Skype with those offering quality of service. DigitalVoice from Orcon will offer similar, or even better quality than a regular analogue telephone service in most cases" explained Bartlett.

Agreement to offer Naked DSL services was reached through the Telecommunications Carriers Forum, of which Orcon is a key member, and Orcon has applauded the willingness of Telecom Wholesale to proactively introduce this product to the market in advance of regulation.

"We are really pleased that the industry has been able to work together with Telecom to deliver a solution that is acceptable to all parties" concluded Bartlett.

Pricing for the naked DSL service is still being determined, and will be made public closer to the launch date.







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  #77466 9-Jul-2007 16:13
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Oh wow, I have been waiting for this, the new house has a very good clean line so I am awaiting this with baited breath! hopefully it comes with a bundles mobile data/phone service too?

I can finally have the broadband I want!, I'd happily pay $25 + local calls charged for an analogue line though telecom pulled this offer when broadband started taking off.



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  #77509 9-Jul-2007 20:08
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paradoxsm: Oh wow, I have been waiting for this, the new house has a very good clean line so I am awaiting this with baited breath! hopefully it comes with a bundles mobile data/phone service too?


I can finally have the broadband I want!, I'd happily pay $25 + local calls charged for an analogue line though telecom pulled this offer when broadband started taking off.


Orcon are providing (apparently, nothing happens on time in the telecom's industry) cellular access (using Vodafone's network as a virtual provider) so maybe your wish will be granted.

I'm betting Telecom will still get $10-15 per month, way too much in my opinion.  $150 per year, with a 5 year payback period means that the line cost about $750.  That's a very expensive piece of wire.

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  #77553 10-Jul-2007 09:02
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That's really a good news. I wonder whether they'll start offering a triple play device, similar to BTvision



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#77557 10-Jul-2007 09:54
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timestyles:
paradoxsm: Oh wow, I have been waiting for this, the new house has a very good clean line so I am awaiting this with baited breath! hopefully it comes with a bundles mobile data/phone service too?


I can finally have the broadband I want!, I'd happily pay $25 + local calls charged for an analogue line though telecom pulled this offer when broadband started taking off.


Orcon are providing (apparently, nothing happens on time in the telecom's industry) cellular access (using Vodafone's network as a virtual provider) so maybe your wish will be granted.

I'm betting Telecom will still get $10-15 per month, way too much in my opinion. $150 per year, with a 5 year payback period means that the line cost about $750. That's a very expensive piece of wire.


Of course, it would be a relatively expensive wire to lay and to fix if anything which wrong (of course, you wouldn't like to foot the bill for some cable breakage in the street, right?). And remember, the wire wouldn't become Orcons per say - it would just be connected to Orcons equipment in your local exchange.




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  #77558 10-Jul-2007 09:57
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On a more positive note, I am looking forward to Naked DSL, as while the landline suits me well... I would like the choice to choose whether I need the voice services running or not. Additionally more VOIP options would be great as I want to finish my Asterisk PABX project here.




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  #77568 10-Jul-2007 10:56
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and a less positive note, judging from people experiences here, 128kb upload speed is too low for VoIP, so price sensitive people like myself will have to pay for more expensive upload speeds, thereby reducing the gains made by VoIP.  Hopefully that will change in a few years with prices dropping. 

 
 
 
 

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#77582 10-Jul-2007 12:31
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Interesting, because in theory you only need 64 Kbps - latency is a more important factor...





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freitasm: Interesting, because in theory you only need 64 Kbps - latency is a more important factor...



Correct, Latency and Jitter




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  #77592 10-Jul-2007 13:13
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freitasm: Interesting, because in theory you only need 64 Kbps - latency is a more important factor...



It all depends what codec you want to use - g.729 uses around 30kbps in each direction using a 20ms payload but I find the quality terrible. I personally only use ulaw or alaw but they require at least 87kbps in each direction which tends to suck through the bandwidth and if I'm after a low bitrate codec I use gsm as I find it sounds better than g.729


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  #77677 10-Jul-2007 22:10
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Thant's why you go for an ISP that has built their network from the ground up with VoIP in mind, for example WxC. Their service is as solid as a Volvo!




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  #77683 10-Jul-2007 22:33
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Awesome. This means i can go with them just for the net, which i heard was good unlike telecoms.

When i move out and have control over who i go with.

 
 
 
 

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  #77738 11-Jul-2007 14:15
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maverick:
freitasm: Interesting, because in theory you only need 64 Kbps - latency is a more important factor...



Correct, Latency and Jitter


And low packet loss.

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