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Topic # 148665 26-Jun-2014 15:46
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So this press release:
http://www.chorus.co.nz/chorus-accelerate-delivers-step-change-to-new-zealand-s-broadband-capability
makes some noise around wholesale fibre plan and price offering changes on 1 July.

Does anyone know if these are going ahead?

And if so, does anyone dare speculate when they may flow down via the ISPs to us retail consumers.

I'm currently on on a 30/10 plan and would love to go to a 100Mb/s down, but can't justify the $30 monthly premium uplift that my ISP wants for it.  




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  Reply # 1075125 26-Jun-2014 17:08
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Yes, they launch on July 1st.  the older plans will still be available to buy.

I imagine most ISPs will be moving to the new plans at some point in July.




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  Reply # 1075132 26-Jun-2014 17:19
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This tweet may also be of interest; there may be an extra announcement coming soon.

We have been working with providers on how & when we launch Gig services across our entire fibre network. We expect to do so soon.

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  Reply # 1075142 26-Jun-2014 17:39
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Behodar: This tweet may also be of interest; there may be an extra announcement coming soon.

We have been working with providers on how & when we launch Gig services across our entire fibre network. We expect to do so soon.


I hope Chorus don't do a best effort 1Gbps service like UFF is doing. If people are going to fork out the big bucks then they should be getting what they pay for.







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  Reply # 1075190 26-Jun-2014 18:48
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solaybro:
Behodar: This tweet may also be of interest; there may be an extra announcement coming soon.

We have been working with providers on how & when we launch Gig services across our entire fibre network. We expect to do so soon.


I hope Chorus don't do a best effort 1Gbps service like UFF is doing. If people are going to fork out the big bucks then they should be getting what they pay for.


I hope it's best effort, then us plebs might actually be able to afford it.

(I say "us plebs" but note that I'm in a UFF area)

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  Reply # 1075191 26-Jun-2014 18:49
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solaybro:
Behodar: This tweet may also be of interest; there may be an extra announcement coming soon.

We have been working with providers on how & when we launch Gig services across our entire fibre network. We expect to do so soon.


I hope Chorus don't do a best effort 1Gbps service like UFF is doing. If people are going to fork out the big bucks then they should be getting what they pay for.


People aren't paying big bucks for the UFF Gigabit service. It is insanely cheap and has no CIR.

Your ISP can purchase whatever CIR you want, as long as you pay. If you want 1Gbps CIR then just pay for it.

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  Reply # 1075199 26-Jun-2014 19:18
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solaybro:
Behodar: This tweet may also be of interest; there may be an extra announcement coming soon.

We have been working with providers on how & when we launch Gig services across our entire fibre network. We expect to do so soon.


I hope Chorus don't do a best effort 1Gbps service like UFF is doing. If people are going to fork out the big bucks then they should be getting what they pay for.


I'm confused.

You're wanting 1Gig but don't want it best effort. How else do you expect 1Gbps to be delivered?

If you want a 1Gbps connection with P2P that option is available to you with a wholesale cost of around $600 - $700 per month in a CBD for the connection to your ISP. All bandwidth costs will then be added on top.

GPON is a shared resource with 2.4Gbps downstream, there is no other way of delivering it other than as a shared resource like every other UFB plan which is also a best effort EIR.


 

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  Reply # 1075200 26-Jun-2014 19:20
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I'm just worried about UFF loading 10 gigabit customers on a single OLT and delivering a service utterly crippled in peak hours.

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  Reply # 1075206 26-Jun-2014 19:36
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ripdog: I'm just worried about UFF loading 10 gigabit customers on a single OLT and delivering a service utterly crippled in peak hours.


Why would it be crippled? Your average customer isn't going to to be able to do anything that'll be able to use anything near that speed, which makes the whole point of Gigabit totally pointless anyway.




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  Reply # 1075214 26-Jun-2014 20:10
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sbiddle: ..
GPON is a shared resource with 2.4Gbps downstream, ...
 


Out of interest, how many homes typically connected to a GPON, and what is the maximum?




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  Reply # 1075220 26-Jun-2014 20:24
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floydbloke:
sbiddle: ..
GPON is a shared resource with 2.4Gbps downstream, ...
 


Out of interest, how many homes typically connected to a GPON, and what is the maximum?


A typical GPON deployment involves splits of up to 64 ways. I believe Google Fiber uses 32 way splits.

Here in NZ I believe the original CFH spec was for 24 way splits which would have enabled 100Mbps per user uncontended, but I believe many 32 way splitters were installed (but that doesn't mean they would have ever had 32 premises connected). With the current low uptake of UFB it's pretty much a moot point anyway.

I know Chorus are moving to 16 way splits as standard, but with their move to ABFATs deep within the network from yr3 and yr4 onward the ability to easily configure that or easily offer P2P services to any customer is there. I can't comment on what the LFCs are doing.



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