Getting Fibre outside of the UFB Zone

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#150752 2-Aug-2014 00:20

Does anybody have any ideas or somebody that can provide me with a quote for getting Fibre to a small business premises outside the UFB zone?

The business is located in Bay View, Hawkes Bay (serviced by Chorus if I am not mistaken). Currently on their network rollout map it does not show it as a future rollout zone.

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About 50m from the premises is the main highway which has fibre running along it, is there a company or Chorus that can get the fibre onto the premises and what sort of costs would be involved?

Thanks for any ideas / suggestions.

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#1100401 2-Aug-2014 01:42

looking around, VDSL is available there, thats always an option.

however, it sounds like your willing to pay for it, in which case, possibly HSNS could be an option..

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#1100413 2-Aug-2014 06:43

If you cant get the actual fibre connected you can try to do what I did and put in a couple of point to point Radios between you location and someone who has UFB. In my case between home and the office about 700m away. I used Ubiquiti M5 radios http://www.gowifi.co.nz/ubiquiti-networks/ubiquiti-networks-nanobeam.html

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#1100433 2-Aug-2014 07:39

Are you asking if they can get a UFB connection - the simple answer at this time would be NO

Bay Veiw is about 4.5 km outside the nearest UFB candiate area.

Unfortunatly haveing a close proxcimity to fibre cableing doesnt mean it can be just tapped into to provide a particular service ( Just like I have a high presure gas line about 40m from my driveway but I cant get a gas reticulation service)

If you are asking if they can get another service type via fibre the answer would be Yes - but as Chorus isnt a retailer of such services they would have to find out from their or another Retail Serivice Provider (busines) what stervices they can get and at what cost

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#1100435 2-Aug-2014 07:43

Is unison fibre available there? Have a check on their website.

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#1100437 2-Aug-2014 07:45

Chorus business fibre is probably avaliable. Contact your favorite business ISP and ask them to do a prequal.

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#1100452 2-Aug-2014 08:14

Chorus fibre is probably available but install costs are a complete unknown without getting a prequel done. They could easily be $5 - $25k + as the true cost of installing fibre is passed on to you. It's not subsidised like UFB.

This is not a UFB area however so UFB will never be available.

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#1100453 2-Aug-2014 08:14

4.5 kilometres of fibre to your place = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

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#1100454 2-Aug-2014 08:18

Sounddude: Chorus business fibre is probably avaliable. Contact your favorite business ISP and ask them to do a prequal.

A quick look shows no Chorus business fibre availability there. It is however a service area for HSNS lite. Depending on distance from the cabinet it would be an option but I'd suspect the OP will balk at the cost!

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#1100486 2-Aug-2014 09:49

DarthKermit: 4.5 kilometres of fibre to your place = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

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#1100489 2-Aug-2014 09:53

johnr:
DarthKermit: 4.5 kilometres of fibre to your place = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

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Fibre can be run from a local cabinet. Just as an idea however a recent price I got for a customer that's around 800m from a cabinet was for around $15k. If you're a business and are stuck with ADSL2+ that's an OK price to pay, but if you've got VDSL2 it's a pretty tough sell.

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#1101164 3-Aug-2014 16:01

Have a talk to Now NZ Hawkes bay's local ISP. With local knowledge they will be able to tell you what's available.

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#1101913 4-Aug-2014 17:50

VDSL is your solution.
Its avaliable off the exchange next to the foursquare and honda shop, and reaches as far as the BP going south towards the city centre, and to the new 70<>100km/h speed change area going north

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#1101933 4-Aug-2014 18:15

For most small businesses, if you can get VDSL2 then thats a good step up. Otherwise without spending probably 10k plus on business fibre you may find a wireless ISP in your area?

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#1109328 15-Aug-2014 21:41

Thank you for all your advice and suggestions, after speaking with our local internet provider and getting some quotes it would cost around $15,000 to get the fibre to the premises with additional costs for trench work on the premises it self.

For the moment I guess ADSL2+ will have to do as the premises is outside the VDSL2 area unfortunately.