ETP location and fibre

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mabnz

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#152256 21-Sep-2014 22:19

Hey guys

We're relining our place and I thought I should futureproof for when UFB is available in my area.

Two questions..

a) We have overhead wires for phone at present, will fibre be strung along the same line, or will they trench it from the street? We live on a hill, hence the likely reason for overhead cables.

b) If it's overhead fibre, should I cable Cat6 from where I want my 'star wiring box' to sit, to where the current cable enters the house (ETP), or fibre? If fibre, what sort of fibre?

Cheers

DarkShadow

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#1133333 22-Sep-2014 00:09

Who's your fibre company?

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InstallerUFB

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#1133338 22-Sep-2014 05:24

To help answer the first part of your question we need to know what general area you live in (as there are different requirements from the verious network providers) but in general if you currently have an overhead copper connection then a new fibre one would be overhead.

To answer the second - the network provider will supply and install the cable from the ETP to your newtork hub @ the time of the install - you can help by providing a pathway (conduit) with a draw-wire in it.

mabnz

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#1133358 22-Sep-2014 07:19

InstallerUFB: To help answer the first part of your question we need to know what general area you live in (as there are different requirements from the verious network providers) but in general if you currently have an overhead copper connection then a new fibre one would be overhead.

To answer the second - the network provider will supply and install the cable from the ETP to your newtork hub @ the time of the install - you can help by providing a pathway (conduit) with a draw-wire in it.

We're in Hataitai, in Wellington. So I've already installed Cat6 from my ETP to my switch, will this suffice or does the ONT take fibre input?

cyril7

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#1133360 22-Sep-2014 07:29

Hi, the ONT has a fibre input, its a media converter that converts GPON fibre to UTP Ethernet plus potentially other services (PCM voice etc) by GEM encapsulation.

I am also in Hataitai and I suspect its a bit of a dogs breakfast as to if its over or under, but my guess is over will remain for some years yet.

Depending on the layout the options would be, if overhead, provide a ducted path from near the high line drop (under eave) to either the ceiling or underfloor where easy access will allow the fibre to be run to the hub (so duct in internal wall to hub) , or if thats too hard provide some suitable location to house the ont on an inside wall with the ETP directly on an outside wall either low or high with a duct either on the outside surface from high to low etc or you provide an internal wall duct for future fibre occupation etc and 2x cat6 runs from the ONT to the hub, plus power.

Cyril

mabnz

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#1133361 22-Sep-2014 07:31

cyril7: Hi, the ONT has a fibre input, its a media converter that converts GPON fibre to UTP Ethernet plus via potentially other services (PCM voice etc) by GEM encapsulation. I am also in Hataitai and I suspect its a bit of a dogs breakfast as to if its over or under, but my guess is over will remain for some years yet.

Depending on the layout the options would be, if overhead, provide a ducted path from near the high line drop to either the ceiling or underfloor where easy access will allow the fibre to be run to the hub, or if thats too hard provide some suitable location to house the ont on an inside wall with the ETP directly on an outside wall either low or high with a duct either on the outside surface from high to low etc or you provide an internal wall duct for future occupation etc and 2x cat6 runs from the ONT to the hub.

Cyril

Hmm, ok thanks. Sounds like I will need to go and buy some conduit.. I was hoping to pre-run the fibre myself to the ENT and leave it there for when the time comes. Is there a minimum conduit size required?

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#1133363 22-Sep-2014 07:35

Hi, use 25mm grey (thats the outside dia which is acceptably close to Chorus spec 20mm which has approx the same internal dia as 25mm OD data grey), You cannot run the fibre yourself, but you can provide suitable ducts with draw wires.

For bends, you must use swept bends not elbows, its acceptable to use flexible to create swept bends and to negotiate complex objects but keep it to a minimum and you must use a draw wire with flexi. Also dont use flexi where its exposed to UV (ie fully sun exposed outdoor sections).

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linw

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#1133411 22-Sep-2014 09:31

Why not let the installers do all this? Doesn't cost you anything. Sometimes you can out think things.

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#1133415 22-Sep-2014 09:33

Hi, Hataitai is not due for UFB for quite sometime, I think the OP is trying to ensure that his internal cabling is ready to accept UFB from an internal perspective while the Gib is off, which is a very good plan.

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mabnz

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#1133417 22-Sep-2014 09:35

cyril7: Hi, Hataitai is not due for UFB for quite sometime, I think the OP is trying to ensure that his internal cabling is ready to accept UFB from an internal perspective while the Gib is off, which is a very good plan.

Cyril

Yep, precisely. The location I have all my other switching is a while away from where the ETP would be, so I'd like to get conduit laid while I have the lining off.

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linw

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#1133705 22-Sep-2014 14:10

Sorry, that makes excellent sense! I did read your first post but I didn't absorb it! Note to self - read more carefully.