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#157440 1-Dec-2014 18:09

So, Second line is due to be activated today (7pm due to be completed, so its a wait till then before i can confirm the job is completed and such)

Just wanting to confirm I got the cable pair around the right way, for dsl it should be Pair 1 (pins 4 and 5 or the blues) right?

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#1186526 1-Dec-2014 18:12

yes blue for telco stuff.

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#1186528 1-Dec-2014 18:13

richms: yes blue for telco stuff.

perfect! Things should be good on my side then.

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#1186540 1-Dec-2014 18:32

if you also want to check, grab a multimeter and check the pair for voltage, should be "ABOUT" 50 - 42 volts dc on an open circuit, or 7 - 5 volts dc with the phone off the hook and if your UNLUCKY enough about 90 volts if the line is ringing, (DONT PUT THE PAIR IN YOUR MOUTH TO HOLD WHILE U DO SOMTHING ELSE)

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#1186554 1-Dec-2014 18:36

phantomdb: if you also want to check, grab a multimeter and check the pair for voltage, should be "ABOUT" 50 - 42 volts dc on an open circuit, or 7 - 5 volts dc with the phone off the hook and if your UNLUCKY enough about 90 volts if the line is ringing, (DONT PUT THE PAIR IN YOUR MOUTH TO HOLD WHILE U DO SOMTHING ELSE)

i didnt actually consider it given it was a naked dsl line when i crimed the wires at the ETP, should have checked that!

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#1186555 1-Dec-2014 18:38

phantomdb: (DONT PUT THE PAIR IN YOUR MOUTH TO HOLD WHILE U DO SOMTHING ELSE)

Sounds like the voice of experence :-)

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#1187236 2-Dec-2014 17:01

phantomdb: (DONT PUT THE PAIR IN YOUR MOUTH TO HOLD WHILE U DO SOMTHING ELSE)

when i was little i liked the pins of a phone plug while it was plugged in, just the same as licking a 9 volt battery to test if its charged.

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#1187272 2-Dec-2014 17:53

SATTV:
phantomdb: (DONT PUT THE PAIR IN YOUR MOUTH TO HOLD WHILE U DO SOMTHING ELSE)

Sounds like the voice of experence :-)

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#1187402 2-Dec-2014 20:07

phantomdb:
SATTV:
phantomdb: (DONT PUT THE PAIR IN YOUR MOUTH TO HOLD WHILE U DO SOMTHING ELSE)

Sounds like the voice of experence :-)

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Much the same reason why it's always the apprentice's job to joint the feeder side of a cut cable or overlay.

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#1187404 2-Dec-2014 20:11

Well, for anyone interested in following this..

Turns out Chorus came back today stating that there is 'no copper at the location' I assume this means all the Available pairs are in-use Which i understood was check to not be the case as part of the manual prequel prior to putting the transfer in.

Its with previsioning to Figure out if there are any options or not at this point. Ild assume there isn't however unfortunately.

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#1187409 2-Dec-2014 20:16

hio77: Well, for anyone interested in following this..

Turns out Chorus came back today stating that there is 'no copper at the location' I assume this means all the Available pairs are in-use Which i understood was check to not be the case as part of the manual prequel prior to putting the transfer in.

Its with previsioning to Figure out if there are any options or not at this point. Ild assume there isn't however unfortunately.

'No copper at the location' normaly means there is no terminal @ the location (this may be the case even if there is a cable loop system running past)

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#1187410 2-Dec-2014 20:17

Nah they dont check for that for installations. When we had the 4th connection to the house livened up for a while they said it was all sweet to go but when the tech came out it wasnt because of pairs going faulty and being swapped with others etc.

They got it working in the end somehow. Probably put some sucker with only a phone onto one of the crap pairs to free up a good one or something.

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#1187416 2-Dec-2014 20:22

InstallerUFB:
hio77: Well, for anyone interested in following this..

Turns out Chorus came back today stating that there is 'no copper at the location' I assume this means all the Available pairs are in-use Which i understood was check to not be the case as part of the manual prequel prior to putting the transfer in.

Its with previsioning to Figure out if there are any options or not at this point. Ild assume there isn't however unfortunately.

'No copper at the location' normaly means there is no terminal @ the location (this may be the case even if there is a cable loop system running past)

Thanks for the input! but could you clarify things? no terminal at the location?

How could this be the case considering its a second pair? (definitely a 2 pair 049) Wouldn't it be running all the way to the same terminal as the first? Or is my logic here flawed?

richms: Nah they dont check for that for installations. When we had the 4th connection to the house livened up for a while they said it was all sweet to go but when the tech came out it wasnt because of pairs going faulty and being swapped with others etc.

They got it working in the end somehow. Probably put some sucker with only a phone onto one of the crap pairs to free up a good one or something.

Hm, wouldnt be surprised if that is the case for how this goes, Know a fair few places around here with Multiple phone lines but single dsl connection.

I never spoke to the tech as it was a "reconnection only" order. - Would have really appreciated the tech just calling when they checked this out and explaining it all really...

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