How good would the broadband be at Bush View Drive, Waitetuna 3295?

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Topic # 160633 14-Jan-2015 09:51

A family member is looking at a house in Bush View Drive, Waitetuna - Post Code 3295, between Raglan and Hamilton.
The Real Estate Agent allegedly says there is "good" broadband, and that the previous tenant was a grahics designer who worked from home a lot.

Looking at the Chorus coverage map, I have doubts about that - it looks like ADSL1 and maybe fed from a nasty old Conklin cabinet.
Please can one of the gurus here give me an indication of what kind of broadband throughput they might actually get?
I'll PM the actual street number if that will help.

The resident teenager is already deeply skeptical, there's no cellphone coverage and how can any high school girl possibly live without that? ;)
However having 'broadband' that won't allow them to stream video reliably would probably be a deal-breaker.

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Reply # 1213591 14-Jan-2015 09:55

Define what you mean by good?

My parents browse web pages and check basic emails, They would be happy with a 128k connection for the 600 to 800MB they use per month,

Zero cell phone coverage can be fixed with a Vodafone Sure Signal unit, All that is required is a semi OK broadband connection

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Reply # 1213598 14-Jan-2015 10:12

I have a friend who lives a bit down the road (Highbrook Way) and he gets ~7mb down

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Reply # 1214633 14-Jan-2015 11:20

johnr: Define what you mean by good?

My parents browse web pages and check basic emails, They would be happy with a 128k connection for the 600 to 800MB they use per month,

Zero cell phone coverage can be fixed with a Vodafone Sure Signal unit, All that is required is a semi OK broadband connection

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Two IT professionals, one teenager
The adults are also movie buffs/geeks, heavy Netflix users via VPN. The teenager is a modern teenager
They are currently in town on a 500GB plan and use 300 to 400GB most months

I would think that 7 or 8Mbps might be OK provided that it doesn't dribble off to very low throughput at peak time

Good point about the Sure Signal
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Reply # 1214638 14-Jan-2015 11:27

I'd say you'd want to find out if that address is fed off a Conklin. If so, and there are other properties around, expect congestion.
Hopefully one of the Telco/chorus posters will come along and tell you what that property is connected to and if any upgrades are in the pipeline.

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Reply # 1214641 14-Jan-2015 11:32

PolicyGuy:
johnr: Define what you mean by good?

My parents browse web pages and check basic emails, They would be happy with a 128k connection for the 600 to 800MB they use per month,

Zero cell phone coverage can be fixed with a Vodafone Sure Signal unit, All that is required is a semi OK broadband connection

John

Two IT professionals, one teenager
The adults are also movie buffs/geeks, heavy Netflix users via VPN. The teenager is a modern teenager
They are currently in town on a 500GB plan and use 300 to 400GB most months

I would think that 7 or 8Mbps might be OK provided that it doesn't dribble off to very low throughput at peak time

Good point about the Sure Signal
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I think you are gonna get a shock,

The 7 to 8 Mbs was quoted for an adress near whatawhata that is listed on Chorus as +10Mb/s
Bush view Drive is listed as +5Mb/s..
Also according to the fibre maps the nearest fibre is the corner of Waitetuna Valley road and the SH, which is at least 3.5km away
, Waitetuna School is listed as RBI, not UFB...

But hopefully someone with access to the tomes of enlightenment aka the Chorus Cabinet list will be able to confirm the actual state of affairs.

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Reply # 1214642 14-Jan-2015 11:33

Yes, that's what I'm hoping

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Reply # 1214660 14-Jan-2015 11:52

Bush View Dr is feed from TUK/B (Near Cnr Waitetuna Valley Rd & SH23) approx 3.7km from mid-way up rd

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Reply # 1214699 14-Jan-2015 12:10

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InstallerUFB: Bush View Dr is feed from TUK/B (Near Cnr Waitetuna Valley Rd & SH23) approx 3.7km from mid-way up rd

Which is apparently a double bay whisper cabinet, so its fibre fed and not a conklin, so contention should not be a huge issue, but the 3+ Km of copper to Bush View Drive will be the next big thing to look at

I would get the real estate agent to ask the vendor to provide a copy of the modem attenuation page, so you should can a good feel of the sync speed.

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Reply # 1214700 14-Jan-2015 12:14

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wellygary:
InstallerUFB: Bush View Dr is feed from TUK/B (Near Cnr Waitetuna Valley Rd & SH23) approx 3.7km from mid-way up rd
Which is apparently a double bay whisper cabinet, so its fibre fed and not a conklin, so contention should not be a huge issue, but the 3+ Km of copper to Bush View Drive will be the next big thing to look at

I would get the real estate agent to ask the vendor to provide a copy of the modem attenuation page, so you should can a good feel of the sync speed.

if not this, ask an isp for a prequal on the address.

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Reply # 1214788 14-Jan-2015 13:42

hio77:
wellygary:
InstallerUFB: Bush View Dr is feed from TUK/B (Near Cnr Waitetuna Valley Rd & SH23) approx 3.7km from mid-way up rd
Which is apparently a double bay whisper cabinet, so its fibre fed and not a conklin, so contention should not be a huge issue, but the 3+ Km of copper to Bush View Drive will be the next big thing to look at

I would get the real estate agent to ask the vendor to provide a copy of the modem attenuation page, so you should can a good feel of the sync speed.

if not this, ask an isp for a prequal on the address.

This is a great idea but I checked and the automated prequals for the area are coming up inconclusive and with no stats. Might want to fall back on getting a screen shot of the modem stats from the current tenant.

Please note: I have a professional bias towards Vodafone.

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Reply # 1214938 14-Jan-2015 16:44

Thanks everyone, lots of great information.

The family concerned are now becoming serious students of the Chorus & Vodafone/Spark coverage maps to avoid wasted trips to look at houses that simply won't meet their connectivity needs
:)

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Reply # 1214953 14-Jan-2015 16:58

pretty sure that cab is still an ASAM with no fibre fed

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Reply # 1214998 14-Jan-2015 17:59

I can't remember exactly what it is because I haven't been to TUK/B for a while (yay not doing faults), but I'm pretty confident that the phones are PCM fed and the cabinet is ADSL1 only. I don't know if congestion is an issue on it, because I haven't really had any DSL happenings there, just dead lines after a storm.

So your mileage may vary, but don't expect anything amazing - I certainly wouldn't expect much higher than 4-5Mbit due to distance.

I could also be wildly wrong - I haven't been out there in a while, so my memory is hazy.

Edit: my confidence is growing, because I do remember that TUK/C (the main UAX) is PCM fed, for sure.

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Reply # 1215006 14-Jan-2015 18:16

toejam316: I can't remember exactly what it is because I haven't been to TUK/B for a while (yay not doing faults), but I'm pretty confident that the phones are PCM fed and the cabinet is ADSL1 only. I don't know if congestion is an issue on it, because I haven't really had any DSL happenings there, just dead lines after a storm. So your mileage may vary, but don't expect anything amazing - I certainly wouldn't expect much higher than 4-5Mbit due to distance. I could also be wildly wrong - I haven't been out there in a while, so my memory is hazy. Edit: my confidence is growing, because I do remember that TUK/C (the main UAX) is PCM fed, for sure.

TUK/B is Fibre Fed + is a DSLAM offering up-to VDSL speeds, just make sure you've got a Master Filter installed due to the distance from the cabinet, it is not going to be great speeds at that line length.

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Reply # 1215053 14-Jan-2015 19:45

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