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#177853 16-Aug-2015 14:43

Soon we are starting a new house build in a locality which (apparently) has rural fibre available.

Searching the forums confirms that there are a few hoops to go through and that Snap used to be quite proactive in this field. Are 2degrees now the best first point of contact for discussing the feasibility of this or are there now other ISP's that can help? Has anyone had any recent first hand experience that could point me in the right direction?

Rural Tauranga locality. Thanks in advance.

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#1367485 16-Aug-2015 15:09

Hope you have a big budget for it, as I imagine it will be quite expensive.

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#1367487 16-Aug-2015 15:16

Yes, understand that prices start at $5k, but it will probably never be cheaper.

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#1367513 16-Aug-2015 16:55

Hey, feel to drop me a pm and we could take a look for you.

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#1367520 16-Aug-2015 17:15

You should have a chat with the electrician who is wiring your new house and discuss how any data from your whiz-bang fibre connection is distributed around the house and any outbuildings.

It wll be easier and cheaper to do this as part of a new build.

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#1367531 16-Aug-2015 17:31

Hey, feel to drop me a pm and we could take a look for you

PM sent, thanks for your lightning fast response on a Sunday

ObidiahSlope: You should have a chat with the electrician who is wiring your new house and discuss how any data from your whiz-bang fibre connection is distributed around the house and any outbuildings.

It wll be easier and cheaper to do this as part of a new build.

Yes, I,ve started the process. Started at 3 data points - I've managed to get him up to 16. Now I just need to convince him that I don't need sky because within the next few months all TV will be streamed from the internet. Needless to say, I'm having a bit of trouble explaining VoIP to him.

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#1367581 16-Aug-2015 19:02

traderstu:
Hey, feel to drop me a pm and we could take a look for you

PM sent, thanks for your lightning fast response on a Sunday

ObidiahSlope: You should have a chat with the electrician who is wiring your new house and discuss how any data from your whiz-bang fibre connection is distributed around the house and any outbuildings.

It wll be easier and cheaper to do this as part of a new build.

Yes, I,ve started the process. Started at 3 data points - I've managed to get him up to 16. Now I just need to convince him that I don't need sky because within the next few months all TV will be streamed from the internet. Needless to say, I'm having a bit of trouble explaining VoIP to him.

Getting rid of coax is silly IMHO, especially when it's so cheap. Sky (along with DVB-T and DVB-S Freeview) will be around for many, many years.

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#1390521 20-Sep-2015 08:36

An update on this for those that are interested.

Initially a fast response from full flavour who came back with an estimate of $7900 + GST. It seems that costs could be reduced, but (if I am correct in my interpretation of Jesse's email) there would need to be 20 premises within a km. There isn't. I have tried to contact Jesse from full flavour on numerous occasions, left voice messages twice, but no further communication.

As well as this, I also contacted ruralbroadband@chorus and received a call back within a day or so. The person I spoke to was very helpful and forwarded my enquiry to 2degrees.

I received a call from Ricky at 2degrees who confirmed an estimate of $8k, but wasn't sure whether or not that included GST. I passed on my email address so that he could answer a couple of queries that I had but so far nothing. I have called and left a voice message since - still no response.

I've been a bit busy with other things over the last few weeks but will follow up again on this tomorrow. Hope to be digging a trench for our power in the next week or so (about 100m) so it would be nice to know whether or not it would be a good idea to drop in some conduit.

This on my front boundary - so tantalisingly close

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#1390538 20-Sep-2015 10:11

That doesn't look like fibre.

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#1390548 20-Sep-2015 10:23

Has wireless internet been looked at? Tauranga area has http://www.netsmart.nz/ and http://www.eol.co.nz/ may be able to get a good wireless connection for a lot less than rural fibre.

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#1390557 20-Sep-2015 10:33

+ 1 for wireless I have just gone rural wireless from adsl. Installation cost zero, went with Taylor communication here in Hawkes Bay. Im sure there a plenty of options in Tauranga

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#1390561 20-Sep-2015 11:02

I'd assume having FIB LOC on the pillar was a good indication that fibre is there.

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#1390573 20-Sep-2015 12:02

andrewcnz: Has wireless internet been looked at? Tauranga area has http://www.netsmart.nz/ and http://www.eol.co.nz/ may be able to get a good wireless connection for a lot less than rural fibre.

Yes, I have line of sight to Netsmart's Ohauiti AP. Was with Netsmart at our old place. Generally they seem to be 'followers' when it comes to price and data caps. Their service wasn't bad but in the 5 months since we have been renting I am of the opinion that our slow ADSL connection has been more reliable (albeit slower)and QOS on VoIP is much better.

It is not a case of finding a provider - we are spoilt for choice. The maps say we can get ADSL now (this is why I wonder what is coming up the conduit that is being laid at the moment). We can get the VF RBI and also the Spark rural. It is more a case of the best option for now and into the future. The price of a fibre connection is a bit eyewatering, but I will talk to my accountant and see if my business can pay for it.

Edit: there/their

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#1390576 20-Sep-2015 12:06

In fairness to Netsmart, their rates are not bad at the moment compared to the other wireless providers - a bit slow is all.

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#1390577 20-Sep-2015 12:21

How far from that pillar to point-of-entry on your house?

If it's less than 100m or so then just throw in a 20mm Chorus conduit in to your trench while you are digging it. Any more than 100m and it is getting a bit long to rod and you would be better off feeding a fibre through the conduit before it is buried. Then again, if you wanted to get really serious get a 50mm chorus conduit laid and stick a rope through it.

I have no idea what Chorus take in to house for rural fibre but I would assume it isn't a ribonet and they use one of their 6-core cables or something.

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#1390582 20-Sep-2015 12:53

chevrolux: How far from that pillar to point-of-entry on your house?

If it's less than 100m or so then just throw in a 20mm Chorus conduit in to your trench while you are digging it. Any more than 100m and it is getting a bit long to rod and you would be better off feeding a fibre through the conduit before it is buried. Then again, if you wanted to get really serious get a 50mm chorus conduit laid and stick a rope through it.

I have no idea what Chorus take in to house for rural fibre but I would assume it isn't a ribonet and they use one of their 6-core cables or something.

From the pillar to point of entry is 103m. We are taking our power from a pole that is 60m up the road, the trench will be 70m across the paddock to the house. I guess that I shouldn't worry about it now, just wait and dig a second trench as required.

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