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Topic # 185409 21-Nov-2015 16:43
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Thought some would be interested to know that Twitch.tv will be peering with us and other ISPs in Sydney in the coming days.

Unsure at this point if all their live streams will be served via Sydney or a regional selection, if the former, there should be no reason a user can't stream Twitch in source 99% of the time once the peering is established.

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  Reply # 1432324 21-Nov-2015 16:51
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Great news.
Buffering during a tournament is so lame.

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  Reply # 1432369 21-Nov-2015 19:07
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At last!





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  Reply # 1432474 22-Nov-2015 06:18
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Awesome news! Can't wait for this to go live. So massively sick of buffering.

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  Reply # 1432479 22-Nov-2015 08:14
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I still don't get why the live streams are so bad yet a VOD is flawless playback on source say 10min later

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  Reply # 1432617 22-Nov-2015 12:29
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Live Twitch video and VODs use different CDNs. All live video is delivered from Twitch itself. VODs use Akamai.

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  Reply # 1432807 22-Nov-2015 19:00
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Interesting...

Do you have a public source stating this?


would be interesting to see how long certain isps take to catch up on the peering.....




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  Reply # 1432860 22-Nov-2015 19:59
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hio77: Interesting...

Do you have a public source stating this?


would be interesting to see how long certain isps take to catch up on the peering.....


Didn't realise this was Wikipedia and I am expected to post a source. Source: myself, telco operator.

I'll post a trace route once we are live.

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  Reply # 1432864 22-Nov-2015 20:06
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https://beta.peeringdb.com/net/1956

h
ow's this for a source?  they're on megaport sydney at least...


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  Reply # 1432865 22-Nov-2015 20:09
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myfullflavour:
hio77: Interesting...

Do you have a public source stating this?


would be interesting to see how long certain isps take to catch up on the peering.....


Didn't realise this was Wikipedia and I am expected to post a source. Source: myself, telco operator.

I'll post a trace route once we are live.


i think it was just an honest question.  but don't worry, i found a source. 

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  Reply # 1432866 22-Nov-2015 20:11
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myfullflavour:
hio77: Interesting...

Do you have a public source stating this?


would be interesting to see how long certain isps take to catch up on the peering.....


Didn't realise this was Wikipedia and I am expected to post a source. Source: myself, telco operator.

I'll post a trace route once we are live.


I wasn't trying to attack your creditability, i can see how it came off that way though.


it was more out of surprise as Twitch themselves have not made a big song and dance about it..




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  Reply # 1432901 22-Nov-2015 20:51
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Great news. Thanks.

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  Reply # 1434892 25-Nov-2015 23:19
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Looks like this might've gone live. Traffic coming from a new IP range.

C:\Users\Lorenceo>tracert live.twitch.tv

Tracing route to live.twitch.tv [199.9.251.164]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  Router [192.168.2.1]
  2     6 ms     5 ms     6 ms  57.35.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.35.57]
  3     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  4    31 ms    36 ms    34 ms  as23655.sydney.megaport.com [103.26.68.14]
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8  ^C
C:\Users\Lorenceo>tracert 103.53.48.59

Tracing route to 103.53.48.59 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  Router [192.168.2.1]
  2    10 ms    25 ms     5 ms  57.35.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.35.57]
  3     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  4    30 ms    30 ms    30 ms  as23655.sydney.megaport.com [103.26.68.14]
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7  ^C


Unfortunately though the buffering remains. Twitch. Please.

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  Reply # 1434893 25-Nov-2015 23:21
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Seeing the same here.


traceroute: Warning: twitch.tv has multiple addresses; using 192.16.71.168
traceroute to twitch.tv (192.16.71.168), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 210-246-43-254.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz (210.246.43.254) 30.143 ms 9.092 ms 8.914 ms
2 bvi-400.bgnzftc02.akl.vf.net.nz (203.109.180.226) 9.503 ms 11.912 ms 9.229 ms
3 bvi-188.bgnzftc02.akl.vf.net.nz (203.109.180.225) 9.705 ms 7.318 ms 10.568 ms
4 10.123.80.58 (10.123.80.58) 31.757 ms 31.252 ms 31.061 ms
5 * * *
^C


I cant compare buffering till network load on my connection cools off though.. The jitter makes for an unfair statement about if twitch is Actually buffering or not.


Atleast personally, on Vodafones network since the changes they made twitch has been running Perfectly from US, it moving to AUS is exciting.





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  Reply # 1434894 25-Nov-2015 23:29
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If anything it seems worse than when it was coming from the US for me. Previously a 3500kbps stream would be ok for 10-20 seconds and then buffer. Now it's every 5-10 seconds.

I hope it's just a teething thing.

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  Reply # 1435090 26-Nov-2015 11:59
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Looks like it's switched, on Spark here. 
Streams are coming from 103.53.48.0/24 which are pointing to Sydney. 
Haven't skipped a beat today (but I normally don't anyway) 

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