Can anyone provide an update on an ETA for Naked DSL?

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scobb

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#18618 16-Jan-2008 14:35

Classic situation. My daughter and 2 friends are about to head down to Otago University as 3rd year students. They are flatting in a house in North Dunedin. The house has a phone line (disconnected). They all have Telecom mobile phones and they do not want or need a landline phone. However, they do want broadband internet. I've rung around a few ISPs on their behalf this afternoon, but no one I rang is yet offering what I think is termed "naked DSL". Telstra Clear for instance would charge them $48 per month for the provision of a landline that they don't need or want, but would be mandatory if they wished to purchase a broadband plan. So by the time they've paid for the landline and a half decent broadband plan, they are up for the best part of a hundred bucks a month, which is more than they can afford.

Does anyone know:

a. Is naked DSL available yet? If so who is offering it?
b. If not, are there any reasonably firm timelines for the availability of naked DSL?
c. If naked DSL still a few months away and you realistically have to go with a plan that includes a phone line, I'd be interested in comments on who is offering the best value for money. I'd guess that they would be looking for a full speed down, restricted up, 10GB data package, but no nasty surprises for excess usage type of plan.

Thanks,

Simon

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#105211 16-Jan-2008 14:53

Hello Simon,

WorldXchange (Xnet) has been offering Naked DSL since January 7th this year. Contact number for sales is 0800 123456.

AmooMan

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#105212 16-Jan-2008 15:07

Also you could try Wireless Internet

Im also in North Dunedin and just had my wireless internet connected..

$50 a month for the internet itself + im getting a VOIP line from Xnet for $11.25 (VFX)

With wireless you also have to pay a install charge.. something around $200 - $300

hellonearthisman

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#105229 16-Jan-2008 16:30

Slingshot have naked DSL and I think it's a little less than xnets. They are also increasing the datacap to 10GB from 6GB very soon.

maverick

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#105230 16-Jan-2008 16:47

hellonearthisman: Slingshot have naked DSL and I think it's a little less than xnets. They are also increasing the datacap to 10GB from 6GB very soon.

Incorrect , Unbiased Naked DSL pricing comparasions can be found here under Naked DSL, but for Internet only options Naked DSL may not be what is required, there may be some wireless operators that will be more suitable.

http://www.nzconnection.net/Internet_Plans-Pricing_Comparisons

Yes I am a employee of WxC (My Profile) ... but I do have my own opinions as well

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maverick

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#105231 16-Jan-2008 16:52

Another option to save the cell phone bills when phoning home is signing up to a VOIP provider in your home region ie Auckland, get a VOIP device with a local number Auckland number and give it to the girls they can put it on their internet connection in Dunedin, They then have a local Auckland number and free local calls to their home town when phoning Mum & Dad, and even better no expensive Mobile charges for Mum and Dad when phoning them....

.....Just a thought

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#105239 16-Jan-2008 17:17

Sorry XNet is cheaper if your going to use no extra data. In a student flat I would guess they are getting a 100GB a month,
So then Slingshot is cheaper than XNet.

50GB with Slingshot = $40 50GB with XNet over $50

Rember it's just not the connection, it's how you use the connection.

The bit obout voip, is redudent at they use their mobiles for voice calls.

The advantage with having an auckland number is really just a current problem with porting your exisiting landline number to voip/naked dsl.

Fraktul

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#105241 16-Jan-2008 17:26

maverick: Another option to save the cell phone bills when phoning home is signing up to a VOIP provider in your home region ie Auckland, get a VOIP device with a local number Auckland number and give it to the girls they can put it on their internet connection in Dunedin, They then have a local Auckland number and free local calls to their home town when phoning Mum & Dad, and even better no expensive Mobile charges for Mum and Dad when phoning them.........Just a thought

Official WxC policy now? ;)

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maverick

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#105245 16-Jan-2008 17:38

hellonearthisman: Sorry XNet is cheaper if your going to use no extra data. In a student flat I would guess they are getting a 100GB a month,
So then Slingshot is cheaper than XNet.

50GB with Slingshot = $40 50GB with XNet over $50

Rember it's just not the connection, it's how you use the connection.

The bit obout voip, is redudent at they use their mobiles for voice calls.

The advantage with having an auckland number is really just a current problem with porting your exisiting landline number to voip/naked dsl.

"In a student flat I would guess they are getting a 100GB a month,"

"c. I'd guess that they would be looking for a full speed down, restricted up, 10GB data package, but no nasty surprises for excess usage type of plan."

"The bit obout voip, is redudent at they use their mobiles for voice calls."
Thats right I forgot how cheap it is to call to and from a Mobile over free local calling

"The advantage with having an auckland number is really just a current problem with porting your exisiting landline number to voip/naked dsl"

Not sure what your trying to say here but I don't think your fully up to play with the way this works sorry, it's how you can use technology and part of that is understanding what you can do with it as it's still quite new. A lot of people do not understand how it can be used and may not have thought of these types of options, for Simon's Daughters and her 2 friends having an Auckland Phone number in Dunedin would mean the families in Auckland can phone them for free and not pay Cellphone charges and vise versa, also they can ring friends back home and not use the expensive minutes on the Cell Phones, Students need to watch thier money Student loans all add up.

But as I said the Connections Wiki gives an unbiased breakdown of all services and prices, including wireless options which may be a better option for them, He has asked for comments and I am just giving him some things that he may not have thought of.

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maverick

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#105246 16-Jan-2008 17:39

Fraktul:
maverick: Another option to save the cell phone bills when phoning home is signing up to a VOIP provider in your home region ie Auckland, get a VOIP device with a local number Auckland number and give it to the girls they can put it on their internet connection in Dunedin, They then have a local Auckland number and free local calls to their home town when phoning Mum & Dad, and even better no expensive Mobile charges for Mum and Dad when phoning them.........Just a thought

Official WxC policy now? ;)

I didn't say WxC

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#105249 16-Jan-2008 17:55

NZConnects reports that the XNet Nakeddsl comes with no cap. It cost's more to get more data, the cost of data on XNet cost more than on Slingshot.

Some people in NZ who are porting there numbers to voip are been told to wait as it's not posible in all areas (as seen in the slingshot forum)

Slingshot also offers an Auckland Number for local calling also.

I think parents would call a phone just because the will not get the flat run around to find the person and then to only find they are out that that the person on the phone is to drunk to take a message. Sell cell calls are easy, you conect with the person you want and if not a message can be left.

And to sum up, Slingshot is cheaper than XNet if your going to use it and not just look at it.

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#105260 16-Jan-2008 18:33

hellonearthisman: NZConnects reports that the XNet Nakeddsl comes with no cap. It cost's more to get more data, the cost of data on XNet cost more than on Slingshot.

Some people in NZ who are porting there numbers to voip are been told to wait as it's not posible in all areas (as seen in the slingshot forum)

Slingshot also offers an Auckland Number for local calling also.

I think parents would call a phone just because the will not get the flat run around to find the person and then to only find they are out that that the person on the phone is to drunk to take a message. Sell cell calls are easy, you conect with the person you want and if not a message can be left.

And to sum up, Slingshot is cheaper than XNet if your going to use it and not just look at it.

This is getting a bit of Topic ,
But the only reason that porting numbers will not be avialable in a Calling Region is if the new provider does not have a local Interconnect (POI) in that region.

For example these are the only regions that Number Porting is not available for VFX, every other region in NZ is covered, a lot of other providers do not have as large a coverage area as WxC (If you want the Slingshot coverage area ask them should be a easy question to answer

) full list here VFX / Number Porting availability Now this list covers the whole of the Telecom LICA Calling areas and are the same for all Service Providers, to offer porting in an area you have to have local interconnects matching these Calling Areas (LICA's).

it's easy to spin it in your own forums, hence the reason we like the unbiased view of an independant forum, (btw this is the first time I have mentioned WxC) previous comments said Voip Providers

Levin	Levin	Not Available
Warkworth	Warkworth	Not Available
Gisborne	Gisborne	Not Available
Gisborne	Ruatoria	Not Available
Greymouth	Fox Glacier	Not Available
Greymouth	Franz Josef Glacier	Not Available
Greymouth	Greymouth	Not Available
Greymouth	Haast	Not Available
Greymouth	Hokitika	Not Available
Greymouth	Westport	Not Available
Masterton	Featherston	Not Available
Masterton	Masterton	Not Available
Wanganui	Wanganui	Not Available
Whakatane	Opotiki	Not Available
Whakatane	Whakatane	Not Available

Also point to note....Number Porting is not a requirement for Naked DSL, you can have Naked DSL with a whole new number if you like, Porting your Number is a add on only if you want to keep your existing number

"NZConnects reports that the XNet Nakeddsl comes with no cap. It cost's more to get more data, the cost of data on XNet cost more than on Slingshot."

Thats why I said for Simon to check this out so he can see what will best suit his daughter and friends as it covers a range of options. Wireless Included. AmooMan has pointed out he uses wireless here so NZConnections will list prcing and options as well. They are looking for a Sub $90 - $100 offering !!!!!

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inquisitor

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#105307 17-Jan-2008 01:10

What protocols do you use for VFX? May I use my own SIP-device (at my own risk) for VFX? Will you provide all login details for the VoIP account?

router: AVM Fritz!Box Fon 7390 with Huawei K3765 USB modem attached as GSM voice gateway
VoIP-providers: intervoip.com | sipgate.de (German DID) | sipgate.co.uk (British DID) | sipcall.ch (Swiss DID)
connection: 100/5 MBit/s (DOCSIS 3.0)
mobile devices: Huawei P6 | Nokia Lumia 630 Dual SIM | Huawei: E5832, E1762, K3715, K3765 | Qualcomm Gobi 2000 in Sony VAIO VPC-Z12X9E/X

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#105308 17-Jan-2008 01:22

inquisitor:
What protocols do you use for VFX? May I use my own SIP-device (at my own risk) for VFX? Will you provide all login details for the VoIP account?

maverick was a little off topic (but very informative infomation, thanks for clearing up my off bits), but inquisitor, mate, your seriously off topic. Have you looked in the wiki at www.nzconnections.co.nz