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# 18642 17-Jan-2008 18:20
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What will be the process for this? I am going with slingshot since it will mean my existing italk will become free and I don't have to go thru all the hassles of setting up a new account, but if it sucks totally I would want to change to someone else (will be more choice later)

Would it just be more sensable to get the new isp provisioned on the second pair which will be unused shortly or is there a process to transfer over an installation seemlessly?




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  # 105450 17-Jan-2008 21:24
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Slingshots Naked DSL singup page. Should be able to help you thought the procress.

Most DSL providers are just pumping stuff down the same set of pipes, so  there should not be a serous difference unless  your in an area that has cable.

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  # 105451 17-Jan-2008 21:34
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richms:

Would it just be more sensable to get the new isp provisioned on the second pair which will be unused shortly or is there a process to transfer over an installation seemlessly?

There are several things to consider:

* Has the second pair been wired up for access previously? If not you *may* need to get a tech in to wire it up.
* Does the cable from the street to your premises have a second pair? From experience I've found really old cables typically are only 1 pair.
* I understand that you are trying to avoid any interuptions, however there are number of things to consider:
- With VoIP access, you'll be able to port the number to another VoIP provider without having any issues about losing internet access.
- When switching providers, it should be much smoother as it should be just a flick between old provider and new provider. You aren't worrying about landline disruptions.
- Slingshot have a disconnection fee. If you are already considering alternatives, (without attempting to change your mind) are you sure that is the right choice for you? Because changing your mind later and getting hit with disconnection fees can be expensive later.




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  # 105452 17-Jan-2008 21:36
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well it looks like slingshots a no go, I have to apparanlty set up a telecom account on the second line and then apply for broadband and that will close the telecom account. What a lot of dicking around.




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  # 105454 17-Jan-2008 21:41
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cokemaster:
There are several things to consider:

* Has the second pair been wired up for access previously? If not you *may* need to get a tech in to wire it up.
* Does the cable from the street to your premises have a second pair? From experience I've found really old cables typically are only 1 pair.

Yes, we have run 2 connections here back in the dark ages of 128k jetstart

* I understand that you are trying to avoid any interuptions, however there are number of things to consider:
- With VoIP access, you'll be able to port the number to another VoIP provider without having any issues about losing internet access.
- When switching providers, it should be much smoother as it should be just a flick between old provider and new provider. You aren't worrying about landline disruptions.

Dont care about landline, its the internet that matters


- Slingshot have a disconnection fee. If you are already considering alternatives, (without attempting to change your mind) are you sure that is the right choice for you? Because changing your mind later and getting hit with disconnection fees can be expensive later.


Disconnection fees are for the term contract which is reliant on the goods being fit for purpose, if it sucks then its not fit therefore they cannot hold the contract. All it takes is a reasonable papertrail of trying to resolve it to proove a good faith effort to fix the service. I am not worried about the contract in event of the service sucking.

I am not certain that I would be able to get an account with another ISP at the moment because I still have a listed outstanding amount wth baycorp from 2 years ago that they send me around in circles over, and the idea of paying $49 or whatever to setup a telecom account to just disconnect it the next day is something I find a joke anyway. The flatmates internet is with orcon who are the ones that overcharged me and sent it to baycorp so I need to find a new ISP regardless.  




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  # 105456 17-Jan-2008 21:52
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richms:
I am not certain that I would be able to get an account with another ISP at the moment because I still have a listed outstanding amount wth baycorp from 2 years ago that they send me around in circles over, and the idea of paying $49 or whatever to setup a telecom account to just disconnect it the next day is something I find a joke anyway. The flatmates internet is with orcon who are the ones that overcharged me and sent it to baycorp so I need to find a new ISP regardless.


That certainly seems backwards. I know that Ihug and Orcon (pressumely) have options of getting a connection without migrating from another provider.

Does WorldxChange do direct connections for Naked DSL I wonder...




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According to WxC, directly churning from another provider's nDSL to theirs is not possible until March 08.

See here, under "7. Customer with NDSL with Another ISP".




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  # 105459 17-Jan-2008 22:18
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Until I get an acceptable answer to the smtp access problem xnet are not on the shortlist. So at the moment I have either a new homeline from ihug and ihug dsl or a naked slingshot connection.




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