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#193644 18-Mar-2016 13:35
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Apart from the speed that UFB can offer, is there any other advantages over my existing VF cable?

 

If I did upgrade to UFB would my existing overhead cable have to be removed?

 

Note: I've been using naked broadband for a good few year (4+) now so I'm not worried about a phone line.

 

 

 

 

 

 






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  #1515645 18-Mar-2016 13:41
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The main one IMO would be choice and flexibility - staying with cable means you're locked in with Vodafone - getting UFB means you can chose from any of the other ISPs. 

 

I don't think your cable line would be removed.  Note though that Vodafone (apparently) won't let you get UFB through them if you're in a cable area, so you would have to choose another UFB provider.

 

 





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  #1515648 18-Mar-2016 13:42
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A lot depends upon how well your HFC cable connection is working.

 

If it's going well, without the dreaded evening congestion, and cable suits your needs, why change?  smile

 

If, on the other hand, your 9pm speed is one tenth of your 9am speed (like my connection in Island Bay) then fibre would be a huge improvement.  undecided





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  #1515654 18-Mar-2016 13:51
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A lot depends upon how well your HFC cable connection is working.

 

If it's going well, without the dreaded evening congestion, and cable suits your needs, why change?  smile

 

If, on the other hand, your 9pm speed is one tenth of your 9am speed (like my connection in Island Bay) then fibre would be a huge improvement.  undecided

 

 

Well that's it really, I have only had a hand full of problems in the recent years which are acceptable. the current pricing is comparable to the rest of the market. And yes, the eventing speed issue it only problem. What is up with that?? 11:00pm roles around and boom, 'can't connect'!.

 

 

 

 






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  #1515663 18-Mar-2016 13:59
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jimbob79:

 

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A lot depends upon how well your HFC cable connection is working.

 

If it's going well, without the dreaded evening congestion, and cable suits your needs, why change?  smile

 

If, on the other hand, your 9pm speed is one tenth of your 9am speed (like my connection in Island Bay) then fibre would be a huge improvement.  undecided

 

 

Well that's it really, I have only had a hand full of problems in the recent years which are acceptable. the current pricing is comparable to the rest of the market. And yes, the eventing speed issue it only problem. What is up with that?? 11:00pm roles around and boom, 'can't connect'!

 

 

You have answered your own question.

Leave cable and leave Vodafone at the earliest opportunity.

 

A noted above, VF will not sell you fibre if they can sell you Krapi cable. So go elsewhere.

 

I'm trapped on cable because fibre won't be in our street until late 2019. undecided

 

 

 

EDIT:  If your power, telephone, radio, or TV reception cut out every night, would you consider that acceptable?





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  #1515727 18-Mar-2016 15:13
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jimbob79:

 

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A lot depends upon how well your HFC cable connection is working.

 

If it's going well, without the dreaded evening congestion, and cable suits your needs, why change?  smile

 

If, on the other hand, your 9pm speed is one tenth of your 9am speed (like my connection in Island Bay) then fibre would be a huge improvement.  undecided

 

 

Well that's it really, I have only had a hand full of problems in the recent years which are acceptable. the current pricing is comparable to the rest of the market. And yes, the eventing speed issue it only problem. What is up with that?? 11:00pm roles around and boom, 'can't connect'!

 

 

You have answered your own question.

Leave cable and leave Vodafone at the earliest opportunity.

 

A noted above, VF will not sell you fibre if they can sell you Krapi cable. So go elsewhere.

 

I'm trapped on cable because fibre won't be in our street until late 2019. undecided

 

 

 

EDIT:  If your power, telephone, radio, or TV reception cut out every night, would you consider that acceptable?

 

 

 

 

Why do you call it Krapi cable?

 

It cant be speed as in Hataiati - its normally in high 40'sMbps at all times of day  - ok there are exceptions but not that many.

 

Plus it has a good price for bundled service (I am in poor terrestrial reception area and dont want dish) and the  T-Box is proving a good service since they fixed the time-slip issue.

 

Lastly I am surprised at comment that current pricing is comparable with rest of market when you include the TV service as I found it to be cheaper last time i looked.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #1515771 18-Mar-2016 16:04
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Less congestion (virtually none for me). Better routing. Probably better speeds and latency, and speeds will go up over time. It works in a power cut - just get a Sentry Lite DC UPS.


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  #1515775 18-Mar-2016 16:09
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Were you on cable before you got fibre, timmmay?


 
 
 
 


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  #1515782 18-Mar-2016 16:36
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D1023319:

 

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 Why do you call it Krapi cable?

 

It cant be speed as in Hataiati - its normally in high 40'sMbps at all times of day  - ok there are exceptions but not that many.

 

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I call it "Krapi cable" because:

 

1. it's a reference to the Krapii cable congestion thread

 

2. I have personal experience with terrible cable performance / speeds for the last 12+ months, still not fixed. It is no consolation to me that this is considered "exceptional".

 

This was my "100/10 Mbps" connection at 8pm last night:

 

 

 

 

EDIT:  This has nothing to do with price, and I have made no mention of cable prices on Geekzone.





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  #1515787 18-Mar-2016 17:00
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DarthKermit:

 

Were you on cable before you got fibre, timmmay?

 

 

Yes, for quite a few years. Performance was good, support was slow but fine on the rare occasion it was needed, reliability was good. I moved to fiber for better routing (it was really awful at times) and the ability to use internet in a power cut.


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  #1515790 18-Mar-2016 17:15
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timmmay:

 

DarthKermit:

 

Were you on cable before you got fibre, timmmay?

 

 

Yes, for quite a few years. Performance was good, support was slow but fine on the rare occasion it was needed, reliability was good. I moved to fiber for better routing (it was really awful at times) and the ability to use internet in a power cut.

 

 

Presumably you bailed out before the rot set in in late 2014/early 2015?





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  #1515794 18-Mar-2016 17:28
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I suspect netflix was the final nail in the coffin.

 

If you own the property you should get UFB. It is better than copper cable, it is faster than copper cable and it it should be more reliable.

 

Crown Fibre holdings funding is not going to last forever. If you leave it for 4-5 years and then decide to do it your install fee might be a couple of thousand, where as now it will be covered by CFH and the govts UFB rollout budget.


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  #1515796 18-Mar-2016 17:33
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darylblake:

 

I suspect netflix was the final nail in the coffin.

 

If you own the property you should get UFB. It is better than copper cable, it is faster than copper cable and it it should be more reliable.

 

Crown Fibre holdings funding is not going to last forever. If you leave it for 4-5 years and then decide to do it your install fee might be a couple of thousand, where as now it will be covered by CFH and the govts UFB rollout budget.

 

 

+1

 

The current average real cost of a residential fibre install is $1,350, subsidized by the government.

 

Do it now  smile





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  #1515811 18-Mar-2016 18:17
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current average real cost of a residential fibre install is $1,350, subsidized by the government.

 

Do it now  smile

 

 

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Just do it because its almost free, I was on a good vdsl connection but now on a 100/20 and would not look back.

 

 





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  #1515847 18-Mar-2016 19:42
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Just move to fibre if you can get it. You won't look back.


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  #1515852 18-Mar-2016 19:51
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Presumably you bailed out before the rot set in in late 2014/early 2015?

 

 

Not 100% sure, but I think I moved around 2 years ago.


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