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michael001

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#195449 20-Apr-2016 13:29

Hi,

We bought a house in Dunedin, we're unconditional, settlement next month. Its a house on Stanley Street, Kenmure, Dunedin.

It turns out I will have to drop back to ADSL/VDSL for the move and then start the Fibre install process only once we take ownership.

So I got a pre-qual done:

Serving LWC Name MNG - MDF
HDB3 Present in Binder No
Line Attenuation 4 - 4 dB
Download Rate Range ADSL2+: 16.8 - 16.8 Mb/s, VDSL2: 20.1 - 20.1 Mb/s
Upload Rate Range ADSL2+: 1.3 - 1.3 Mb/s, VDSL2: 10.6 - 10.6 Mb/s
Upload > 300kb/s No
Result Positive For EUBA 40, EUBA 90, EUBA 0, EUBA 180, WVS 0, Boost VDSL, NGA, Baseband Copper, Baseband IP
Result Negative For
Result Inconclusive For BUBA FS/FS
DSL Available at LWC Yes
Access Types Copper
Messages ADSL2+, VDSL2; Connected UBA ASIDs 1690196186; Is NGA Capable

My untrained eye tells me that VDSL is not good and I should go with the temporary ADSL connection.

Have I got that right? Anything else in that mess that I should be aware of?

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#1536597 20-Apr-2016 13:29

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If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

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A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

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#1536613 20-Apr-2016 13:35

if the ADSL results are ~16.8mbps down and 1mbps up then you should have a reasonably decent VDSL line

Your Attenuation is 4-4dB so that looks to be well within the allowable limit for VDSL also

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#1536614 20-Apr-2016 13:35

I see ADSL2 as 16.8/1.3 and VDSL as 20/10... How can you be better off on a 16/1 connection?

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#1536618 20-Apr-2016 13:41

Depending on the quality of the copper you should easily see 50/10 with 4dB. It's possible DLM might move you to 17a in which case you'll see better upload and potentially faster download.

michael001

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#1536621 20-Apr-2016 13:42

PhantomNVD: I see ADSL2 as 16.8/1.3 and VDSL as 20/10... How can you be better off on a 16/1 connection?

I've had a 20/10 VDSL connection in the past - loads of line noise and constant problems. At the time I dropped back to the old ADSL2 connection and had stability again.

I guess I was assuming that would happen again. But being only a temporary connection... I have both modems, so it doesn't matter all that much i guess

michael001

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#1536623 20-Apr-2016 13:42

sbiddle:

Depending on the quality of the copper you should easily see 50/10 with 4dB. It's possible DLM might move you to 17a in which case you'll see better upload and potentially faster download.

Oh fantastic, thanks. Yep, I was right to come here and ask rather than assume. Cheers.

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#1536724 20-Apr-2016 15:24

Ignore the estimated speeds on VDSL, they're based on the old profile and are way too conservative in most cases. Since it's estimating 4dB it shouldn't be too bad.