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#195466 20-Apr-2016 21:01
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I am Connected to Cabinet CU/BB which is located at the intersection on South Eyre & Downs Road and is a ASAM they have acknowledged is suffering major congestion

 

The only map that makes mention of the upgrade for our area is the BUSINESS broadband map on the chorus site. all other maps dont show the upgrade

 

https://www.chorus.co.nz/broadband-options/for-business/broadband-map

 

 

 

It lists the following for our place

 

 

 

 

 

NETWORK CAPABILITY

 

  • Broadband > 1 Mbps
NETWORK UPGRADE SCHEDULED

 

  • Broadband > 5 Mbps by Jun-2016

 

 

For houses Closer to the cabinet it shows

 

 

 

NETWORK CAPABILITY

 

  • Broadband > 1 Mbps
NETWORK UPGRADE SCHEDULED

 

  • Broadband > 20 Mbps by Jun-2016 (with the right modem and plan)
  • Broadband > 5 Mbps by Jun-2016

 

 

Is it a case of the business map is the most up to date and detailed - and there for is the only one showing it? Or will the faster speeds only be avaiable on business plans?

 

 

 

Based on these speeds does it mean they are puting in a cabinet that is ADSL2 & VDSL capable and we are out of VDSL range. I would expect distance wise we would be out of VDSL range but in ADSL2 Range

 

 

 

 


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  #1537003 20-Apr-2016 21:01
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

 

If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

 

  • you have reset your modem and router 
  • your PC (or other PCs in your LAN) is not downloading large files when you are testing - you are not being throttled by your ISP due to going over the monthly cap 
  • your tests are always done on an ethernet connection to the router - do not use wireless for testing 
  • you read this topic and follow the instructions there.

Make sure you provide information for other users to help you. If you have not already done it, please EDIT your post and add this now:

 

  • Your ISP and plan 
  • Type of connection (ADSL, ADSL2, VDSL) 
  • Your modem DSL stats (do not worry about posting Speedtest, we need sync rate, attenuation and noise margin) 
  • Your general location (or street) 
  • If you are rural or urban 
  • If you know your connection is to an exchange, cabinet or conklin 
  • If your connection is to a ULL or wholesale service 
  • If you have done an isolation test as per the link above 

Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this. Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.

 

A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

 

I recommend you read these two blog posts:

 





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  #1537020 20-Apr-2016 21:11
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Yes thank you PeterReader.....

 

 

 

For sake of completeness

 

 

 

NAKED DSL, Only a single jackpoint all others disconnected (there was only ever 2) the remaining jackpoint is the 1st one as the line comes into the house

 

No Phones
No Faxes
No Monitored alarms

 

No As yet I don't have master filter - But to date my connection is bottlenecked by the cabinet uplink not my local connection. And there is not really anything left to filter

 

 

 

My modem details and line stats are as follows

 

 

 

Vendor: LINKSYS
ModelName: X3500
Firmware Version: v1.0.01 build 002 Oct 21, 2013
Boot Version: 1.0.38-112.37
CodePattern: N/A
Country: N/A
Language: EN

 

 

 

-------- DSL Information --------
DSL Driver Version: A2pD035m.d24c
DSL VPI/VCI:  0/100
DSL Status:  Up
DSL Mode: ADSL_G.dmt
DSL UpStream Rate:   864Kbps
DSL DownStream Rate:  7616Kbps

        Down      Up
DSL Noise Margin:     15.9       13.0
DSL Attenuation:       19.0         10.0
DSL Transmit Power:     19.9         11.9

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #1537028 20-Apr-2016 21:21
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Click to see full size

 

Yep, looks like you're in luck. Once the cabinet is upgraded you will be able to take advantage of the increased speeds automatically. 




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  #1537031 20-Apr-2016 21:29
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DarkShadow:

 

Click to see full size

 

Yep, looks like you're in luck. Once the cabinet is upgraded you will be able to take advantage of the increased speeds automatically. 

 

 

 

 

Awsome! About time particularly given my hopes on getting a 2nd fibre based internet connection into a neighbors place and setting up a wireless link were so cruelly destroyed since No ISP could/would provide 2 connections to a single property.

 

 

 

Based On my line stats I believe I should get a Good ADSL2+ connection - but no VDSL - Would this be correct?

 

 

 

 


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  #1537040 20-Apr-2016 21:41
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Correct, just outside of vdsl

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  #1537131 21-Apr-2016 05:40
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after the 28th of april get a prequal for VDSL as chorus are extending the allowable atteneuation from 10.8 to 15dB so you might luck in




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  #1537203 21-Apr-2016 09:16
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Jase2985:

 

after the 28th of april get a prequal for VDSL as chorus are extending the allowable atteneuation from 10.8 to 15dB so you might luck in

 

 

 

 

Ok that is interesting So I guess the question once its avaiable in June is should I try get on VDSL or stick with ADSL2? Monthly rental would cost the same - but I would need a new modem for VDSL

 

How would my speeds compare between ADSL2 & VDSL if we made the following assumptions

 

 

 

Current Stats are as follows

 

Down      Up
DSL Noise Margin:     15.9       13.0
DSL Attenuation:       19.0         10.0
DSL Transmit Power:     19.9         11.9

 

 

 

But some wiring is tidied up or other improvements made, or I get lucky and manage to prequal at 15Dbi - Just. But to allow for deterioration in some conditions lets assume the real figure is 17dbi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #1537258 21-Apr-2016 09:49
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That attenuation is still too high.

 

Have you got master filter/ good cabling from dmarc to modem?




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  #1537259 21-Apr-2016 09:53
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As posted above

 

 

 

No Master filter, No Phones, Only 1 Jackpoint connected

 

 

 

 




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  #1571163 13-Jun-2016 17:01
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Can anyone see an update on cabinet CU/BB the map still shows upgrade By Jun 2016 - but as yet as far as I can tell there has been no upgrade and the internet is worse then ever

 

Vodafone is advising that the cabinet is no longer (or possibly was never going to be) upgraded - which is extremely disappointing if true. (although it would not be the 1st time they were wrong)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #1571167 13-Jun-2016 17:10
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CU/BB is still showing a planned upgraded for Jun-2016.

 

Something to be aware of, Once a cabinet has been upgraded it can take up to 6 weeks before an ISP is notified meaning while your sync may improve it may not be live for them to switch your profile over from BUBA to EUBA (ADSL1 to ADSL2).




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  #1571176 13-Jun-2016 17:34
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Andib:

 

CU/BB is still showing a planned upgraded for Jun-2016.

 

Something to be aware of, Once a cabinet has been upgraded it can take up to 6 weeks before an ISP is notified meaning while your sync may improve it may not be live for them to switch your profile over from BUBA to EUBA (ADSL1 to ADSL2).

 

 

 

 

is there any way to speed this up? - If the uplink from the cabinet for ADSL 1 improves I suspect we will know when the upgrade happens.

 

 

 

Typical Peak time  internet 0.03-0.2Mbit

 

Off Peak Speed 1-2Mbit

 

Speed when entire neighborhood has no power 7Mbit

 

Line Sync speed 7.6 Mbit 


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  #1571179 13-Jun-2016 17:45
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You cant speed up when a Cabinet actually comes online.

 

 

 

Remember your modem stats and what the chorus system report are two very different numbers.

 

if your looking at 15dB on a prequal, you will likely just fit in to vdsl, likely get something like 24/1 instead of maybe 16/0.9

 

They take some time, just await it. If you want more information on the status of it next time a tech is working on it, go have a quick chat with them. Generally they are the ones who know whats going on and can let you know.

 

 

 

With ours, ours took a month or so after all the installation fibre etc was done. This was waiting on what i was told was the Power meter to be installed for it.

 

Seemed a kinda stupid thing considering the cabinets next to it was the conklin and other cabinet(im having a blank, but its the phoneline split out one.) but anyway, once that was done splicing over was done and instantly jumped up to EUBA. - Worth noting in my situation, my line was EUBA bypassed that cabinet straight to the exchange so there was no period for BUBA to EUBA migration.





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  #1571207 13-Jun-2016 18:18
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humvee:

 

Andib:

 

CU/BB is still showing a planned upgraded for Jun-2016.

 

Something to be aware of, Once a cabinet has been upgraded it can take up to 6 weeks before an ISP is notified meaning while your sync may improve it may not be live for them to switch your profile over from BUBA to EUBA (ADSL1 to ADSL2).

 

 

 

 

is there any way to speed this up? - If the uplink from the cabinet for ADSL 1 improves I suspect we will know when the upgrade happens.

 

 

Nope. June isn't even halfway through yet either.




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  #1571218 13-Jun-2016 18:58
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I was meaning is there any way to speed up the delay of 6 weeks after the upgrade before the isp knows about it that was messaged. Rather then to speed up the cabinet upgrade.

 

 

 

Will my adsl 1 speeds(slow due to cabinet overloading) speed up as soon as the upgrade is completed? Or do i need to wait until the isp knows about it? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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