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#195478 21-Apr-2016 12:10

I spoke to the Chorus man working on our local cabinet he said it is being upgraded in May & we should be able to get VDSL as we are about 500mtrs from the Cabinet,

a couple of questions.

1. in the general scheme of things which is normally the best option VDSL or Wireless 4g 700 mhz.

2. if we go down the VDSL route what is normally required (We have a wired split installed for ADSL will it work?)

Many thanks Pete

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#1537385 21-Apr-2016 12:28

Even if you could get similar speeds, more wireless broadband plans have a monthly data cap (80Gb), so if you use more than that you want to go for a VDSL unlimited plan.

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#1537395 21-Apr-2016 12:42

4g has low caps, but is also a shared resource, so if it gets conjested then everyones speeds will suffer. VDSL is going to be much more resiliant to peak time usage.

the 4g from skinny is good at the moment, but wait till more people jump over to it and see what happens. The really low caps will deal to that to a degree at least.

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#1537400 21-Apr-2016 12:47

I would say VDSL all the way. Reliability + bigger datacaps, will it be faster? depends. Wireless can be adversely affected by number of users on the cell at anyone time. Im sure VDSL can be affected at peak times but far less as there are a fixed number of customers. Plus you free up the bandwidth for someone who's only option is wireless.

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#1537406 21-Apr-2016 12:51

why not go for VDSL with a provider that doesn't have a contract, and if its not a great connection then go to 4g

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#1537532 21-Apr-2016 15:09

beehappy:

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2. if we go down the VDSL route what is normally required (We have a wired split installed for ADSL will it work?)

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If you get VDSL you WILL need a proper VDSL master filter (an old ADSL master filter may work, but not as well as VDSL one).

(Some people will argue that you don't always need a master filter, so we shall agree to differ on that point)

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#1538248 22-Apr-2016 17:03

Yes you will get better throughput on 4G than ADSL2+ and MAYBE VDSL but because I use a lot of data, and want the reliability of a cabled connection I would still prefer a DSL line over 4G. The ONLY thing I don't like is the upload on ADSL2 is not really that flash.

I would look at the noise values on your current DSL line (if you have one) and try to figure out what VDSL speed you might get based on that information.

At my old house I had a ADSL2 and i was about 900 metres from the cabinet and i got about 13mbit down and 1 up. When I went to VDSL i got about 25mbit down and about 2 up (after the 998 band plan was rolled out). But you have to remember that even though you may seem 500m from the cabinet, you might have 700m of cable till it hits your Demark point.
Now i live about 200m from a cabinet and get 65mbit/26mbit vdsl.

But to answer your question. If you get VDSL then you will need a VDSL splitter installed, its part of the installation. ADSL Splitters may or nay not work with VDSL depending on what one was installed at the time.

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#1538292 22-Apr-2016 18:15

Consider your options.

Its really a how long is a piece of string question tbh.

Given your only looking at 500M its likely VDSL would be a cheaper option for you. Really depends on your usage etc though.

Personally i would say, try VDSL, see how it feels. worst case, you go to 4G instead.

I am in a rural situatation

i have the option of about 35/5 over 3G or ADSL here currently (16/1 so respectable tbh), i pick the ADSL for bulk transfers.

I do use alternative connections to supplement some speed requirements however.

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#1538293 22-Apr-2016 18:22

Another vote for VDSL

Coming from ADSL you'll find VDSL much more reliable, connection wise.

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#1538294 22-Apr-2016 18:24

ech3lon:

Another vote for VDSL

Coming from ADSL you'll find VDSL much more reliable, connection wise.

Reliable? that comment interests me..

Thats adsl, Last resync was a power cut. has been upwards of 200 days otherwise. Thats pretty reliable if you ask me.

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#1538310 22-Apr-2016 18:48

Aren't you lucky..

Mine had constant restart every few couple of days, a week or two if lucky, that was with different make/model of modem through out the years. I believe a lot other people in GZ could also testify to this.

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#1538311 22-Apr-2016 18:50

ech3lon: Aren't you lucky..

Mine had constant restart every few couple of days, a week or two if lucky, that was with different make/model of modem through out the years. I believe a lot other people in GZ could also testify to this.

I would have to say, you should look into why your connection is dropping exactly then.

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#1538312 22-Apr-2016 18:52

ech3lon: Aren't you lucky..

Mine had constant restart every few couple of days, a week or two if lucky, that was with different make/model of modem through out the years. I believe a lot other people in GZ could also testify to this.

And you have a master splitter filter installed???

I've had an adsl/adsl2+ connection for 15 years straight, the only time its been down is when the card in exchange has failed, the service was upgraded from adsl to adsl2+ or the router was swapped. Why would it go down otherwise??

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#1538320 22-Apr-2016 19:08

ech3lon: Aren't you lucky..

Mine had constant restart every few couple of days, a week or two if lucky, that was with different make/model of modem through out the years. I believe a lot other people in GZ could also testify to this.

Almost by definition, you had a faulty ADSL connection. I would expect at least 6 months between modem reboots, barring power cuts.

My first ADSL modem died of old age (after 6 years ) without any significant outages. (This was with Orcon ADSL in Auckland, before Orcon changed hands)

ADSL is boring, but it works (unlike HFC cable, which I have now).

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#1538326 22-Apr-2016 19:21

Also consider redundancy. If your DSL goes down then you will be able to use 4G via your phone as a backup, but if 4G is all you have and that goes down then you have nothing.

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#1538329 22-Apr-2016 19:23

alasta:

Also consider redundancy. If your DSL goes down then you will be able to use 4G via your phone as a backup, but if 4G is all you have and that goes down then you have nothing.

Exactly this, on the few instances we have been without dsl, even 3G DC, is enough to function totally fine to the point, i simply move from being at my desk to on my phone, almost no difference at all.

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