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AidanS

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#196443 31-May-2016 15:00
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Hi All,

 

Suddenly Chorus and 50% of ISPs I talk to are telling me I can get VDSL (as of the last month or two).

 

Does anyone on here have access or know where I can find my local cabinet/exchange? Is Chorus still installing new copper cabinets? Either I'm still on the old exchange or the Geekzone map is a bit out of date.

 

Everytime I talk to a different CSR (from any ISP) I get a different answer about VDSL at my address.

 

Thanks in advance.


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  #1563069 31-May-2016 15:13
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Input your address on this site.

 

https://www.chorus.co.nz/

 

 





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  #1563070 31-May-2016 15:14
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ajw:

 

Input your address on this site.

 

https://www.chorus.co.nz/

 

 

 

 

 

 

Appreciate the help but looking for an exact cabinet/exchange location.

 

Cheers.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #1563071 31-May-2016 15:16
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AidanS:

 

ajw:

 

Input your address on this site.

 

https://www.chorus.co.nz/

 

 

 

 

 

 

Appreciate the help but looking for an exact cabinet/exchange location.

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

 

that makes zero difference in what you seem to be implying in the first post.

 

i dont think they are installing new copper cabinets but they have just increased the range on VDSL by a little so it could just be down to that.

 

 

 

the chorus link above is probably the best public resource as to what is available at your address


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  #1563072 31-May-2016 15:20
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Jase2985:

 

that makes zero difference in what you seem to be implying int he first post.

 

 

I'm asking for this, because I don't trust the CSRs nor the Chorus map.

 

AidanS:

 

Does anyone on here have access or know where I can find my local cabinet/exchange?

 

 

Jase2985:

 

i dont think they are installing new copper cabinets but they have just increased the range on VDSL by a little so it could just be down to that.

 

 

I'm thinking the same, hence why I'm wanting to check 100% where this cabinet is before making the move.

 

 

 

Cheers.


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  #1563074 31-May-2016 15:22
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Jase2985:

 

<snip>

 

i dont think they are installing new copper cabinets but they have just increased the range on VDSL by a little so it could just be down to that.

 

<snip>

 

 

see Chorus changing to 998 bandplan.





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  #1563075 31-May-2016 15:23
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This any use ? https://gis.geek.nz/celltowers#chorus_cabinets

 

Dont know how up to date it is....

 

 





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  #1563076 31-May-2016 15:24
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there is no need to check where it is because its not going to tell you anything about the quality of the copper between you and the cabinet or how much crosstalk etc is or where the cable actually runs. you would just be guessing

 

if the chorus map says you can get VDSL call your ISP and ask for a prequal, that will give you the best indication of what you could expect


 
 
 
 


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  #1563077 31-May-2016 15:24
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pm me your address details and ill look my cabinet locator if you realy want to know - its more up todate/accurate/complete than public ones


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  #1563080 31-May-2016 15:33
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Sideface:

 

see Chorus changing to 998 bandplan.

 

 

Thank you! Probably best explains it.

 

xpd:

 

This any use ? https://gis.geek.nz/celltowers#chorus_cabinets

 

Dont know how up to date it is....

 

 

Thank you! Already checked that, either it's up to date and Chorus have expanded the coverage existing equipment provides or it's out of date.

 

Jase2985:

 

there is no need to check where it is because its not going to tell you anything about the quality of the copper between you and the cabinet or how much crosstalk etc is or where the cable actually runs. you would just be guessing

 

if the chorus map says you can get VDSL call your ISP and ask for a prequal, that will give you the best indication of what you could expect

 

 

 

 

Thanks, but actually it would be beneficial for me to know.

 

I had this check done by JohnR from Vodafone on here a couple years ago so I know exactly where the exchange I was/am on. I appreciate the fact that road distance =/= cable distance but by knowing if I'm still on that same exchange or not will help me to justify if the switch to VDSL is worthwhile or not. Because every time I call my current ISP they tell me a different story, along with calling other ISPs.

 

InstallerUFB:

 

pm me your address details and ill look my cabinet locator if you realy want to know - its more up todate/accurate/complete than public ones

 

 

Thank you! have PMed :).


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  #1563083 31-May-2016 15:38
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i can almost guarantee you will be connected to the same equipment, it will be the 998 bandplan change and the increase in the max attenuation limit for VDSL.

 

has your ADSL speed changed at all? if no then your connected to the same place.

 

knowing where you are connected IMO is not reason to justify getting VDSL, the justification is in knowing what speed you can get, you cant know this from where the equipment is located, you can know this from getting a prequal done from your ISP.

 

have you actually asked for a prequal? if not the ISP's are just playing the same guessing game you are.


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  #1563085 31-May-2016 15:41
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Jase2985:

 

i can almost guarantee you will be connected to the same equipment, it will be the 998 bandplan change and the increase in the max attenuation limit for VDSL.

 

has your ADSL speed changed at all? if no then your connected to the same place.

 

knowing where you are connected IMO is not reason to justify getting VDSL, the justification is in knowing what speed you can get, you cant know this from where the equipment is located, you can know this from getting a prequal done from your ISP.

 

have you actually asked for a prequal? if not the ISP's are just playing the same guessing game you are.

 

 

Speeds have progressively increased over the last few years, hard to tell what from though (new modem, new internal wiring, etc) and I'm on Vodafone's own ADSL equipment (marketed as the "red" network previously).

 

I'd imagine a prequel would require me to be on the Chorus equipment to be completed, right?


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AidanS:

 

Jase2985:

 

i can almost guarantee you will be connected to the same equipment, it will be the 998 bandplan change and the increase in the max attenuation limit for VDSL.

 

has your ADSL speed changed at all? if no then your connected to the same place.

 

knowing where you are connected IMO is not reason to justify getting VDSL, the justification is in knowing what speed you can get, you cant know this from where the equipment is located, you can know this from getting a prequal done from your ISP.

 

have you actually asked for a prequal? if not the ISP's are just playing the same guessing game you are.

 

 

Speeds have progressively increased over the last few years, hard to tell what from though (new modem, new internal wiring, etc) and I'm on Vodafone's own ADSL equipment (marketed as the "red" network" previously).

 

I'd imagine a prequel would require me to be on the Chorus equipment to be completed, right?

 

 

Just wondering, as people move away from copper to fibre, does less traffic on the copper bundles of wire mean less cross talk and therefore higher speeds for those remaining on copper?


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  #1563177 31-May-2016 16:23
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yes should do


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  #1563255 31-May-2016 19:04
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I can feel for the OP.

 

ISPs keep offering me VDSL.

 

However, when I tried to get a VDSL connection, I found my copper is fed from an exchange 1.2km away even though a fibre fed cabinet is only 500m away.





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  #1563284 31-May-2016 20:19
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AidanS:

 

Jase2985:

 

i can almost guarantee you will be connected to the same equipment, it will be the 998 bandplan change and the increase in the max attenuation limit for VDSL.

 

has your ADSL speed changed at all? if no then your connected to the same place.

 

knowing where you are connected IMO is not reason to justify getting VDSL, the justification is in knowing what speed you can get, you cant know this from where the equipment is located, you can know this from getting a prequal done from your ISP.

 

have you actually asked for a prequal? if not the ISP's are just playing the same guessing game you are.

 

 

Speeds have progressively increased over the last few years, hard to tell what from though (new modem, new internal wiring, etc) and I'm on Vodafone's own ADSL equipment (marketed as the "red" network previously).

 

I'd imagine a prequel would require me to be on the Chorus equipment to be completed, right?

 

 

The latest iteration of the public Chorus map is really quite good. Really only misses the 'bleeding edge' updates as a few new RBI cabniets are still being installed. The nly issue you may find is the checker will say 'you aren't connected' or 'we couldnt find your address' and then is only because your are on Vodafone UCLL gear.

 

You don't need to be on Chorus gear for a manual pre-qual will be done. Really, ask your chosen ISP (spoiler alert: this probably shouldn't be vodafone) for a manual pre-qual if you are adamant that you can get VDSL - if the pre-qual comes back with no VDSL then that's all there is to it, no conspiracies, just no. If you feel it is some conspiracy I am sure your ISP will happily supply the pre-qual results - its essentially just a report with a bunch of random codes next to 'positive' or 'negative'. You are hoping for either 'WVS 0' or 'Boost VDSL' is next to positive.


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