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Topic # 201516 22-Aug-2016 10:32
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Hi Team

 

Have a requirement to shift my modem access point from the office I'm currently in to the buildings "server" room.  Currently i have a line running over the top of the offices and down the wall to where i am.

 

Moving it will allow me to use the buildings Ethernet network and link into a nominated number of ports around the building which i currently cannot access. (cable connections required, WiFi not suitable)

 

Running  a new cable to the "server" room is very straight forward and there is already a cable with a spare pair available in the room.  I know which pair is my line from when we moved in and have traced again to confirm, but i did wonder, how are these Krone blocks configured?

 

Example-my line is on the first block in positions 5/6 )6 currently disconnected.  What is the purpose of the other 2 blocks?

 

and why are there so many incoming connections? have been informed that only 2 connections are available here (4 lines total) 

 

Interested to understand this type of setup further for my own understanding

 

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn216/hsvhel/A7990489-49E3-4D6D-AFD5-377F0270C358_zpstor213ql.jpg

 

 

 

PS-Excuse the disaster of wiring, many have come before us and there is a bit of legacy disconnected and left

 

 


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  Reply # 1615564 22-Aug-2016 10:38
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The question can't really be answered without looking at it.

 

Just be aware that is all 25pr cat3 cable and isn't twisted. It's only rated for 10Mbps.

 

 




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  Reply # 1615786 22-Aug-2016 13:51
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 Cheers, birds nest of internal wiring aside. How do you define what is line 1/2 for instance?

 

also, based on it being max rated at 10Mbps, VDSL would be a useless option?


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  Reply # 1615787 22-Aug-2016 13:53
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hsvhel:

 

 Cheers, birds nest of internal wiring aside. How do you define what is line 1/2 for instance?

 

 

If it's not labelled, good luck!

 

 

also, based on it being max rated at 10Mbps, VDSL would be a useless option?

 

 

VDSL is special, it should be OK with Cat 3


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  Reply # 1615789 22-Aug-2016 13:56
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hsvhel:

 

 Cheers, birds nest of internal wiring aside. How do you define what is line 1/2 for instance?

 

also, based on it being max rated at 10Mbps, VDSL would be a useless option?

 

 

I'm meaning 10Mbps when using it for Ethernet


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  Reply # 1615794 22-Aug-2016 14:09
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Cheers, birds nest of internal wiring aside. How do you define what is line 1/2 for instance?

 

First by looking up ICMS and hoping the records are correct. But then secondly, with a butt phone.

 

As far as 'why are there so many connections'... what generally happens is a big cable gets installed, but only some of the pairs are actually jointed in to the chorus network. Means that as long as there is capacity in the street, they can quite easily increase capacity to the premises as required.

 

Also, some of that could just be local cable for other tenancies.

 

So to move your connection to the server you can simply run in your new cable and connect it to the pair that is currently feeding your office - just be absolutely certain that is your connection/pair or you may not be very popular with the rest of the building.




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  Reply # 1615877 22-Aug-2016 15:52
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sbiddle:

 

hsvhel:

 

 Cheers, birds nest of internal wiring aside. How do you define what is line 1/2 for instance?

 

also, based on it being max rated at 10Mbps, VDSL would be a useless option?

 

 

I'm meaning 10Mbps when using it for Ethernet

 

 

Cheers, those are all incoming.  There's only 3 of us here

 

Line 1 - Office and Fax (2nd Line)

 

Line 2 - Me and another company on what would be my second line.

 

Internal network is all Cat6. 

 

 

 

chevrolux:

 

Cheers, birds nest of internal wiring aside. How do you define what is line 1/2 for instance?

 

First by looking up ICMS and hoping the records are correct. But then secondly, with a butt phone.

 

As far as 'why are there so many connections'... what generally happens is a big cable gets installed, but only some of the pairs are actually jointed in to the chorus network. Means that as long as there is capacity in the street, they can quite easily increase capacity to the premises as required.

 

Also, some of that could just be local cable for other tenancies.

 

So to move your connection to the server you can simply run in your new cable and connect it to the pair that is currently feeding your office - just be absolutely certain that is your connection/pair or you may not be very popular with the rest of the building.

 

 

Thanks, was wondering why so many incoming and only 2 available.  Its OK about the popularity, there's only 3 of us here.  Not a massive office complex or anything


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  Reply # 1617072 24-Aug-2016 22:31
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This type of Krone block is the standard 10-pair version, they come in pairs so each "position" has 2 wires, a pair number, and a colour code.you can see the pair 1 is white and blue, pair 5 is white and grey, pair 10 isred and grey, and pair 15 is black and grey. They only have a 15-pair cable connecting your premises so the 3rd block is spare with no incoming wires. Sometimes you will find the pairs that have your active phone numbers on them along with a "naked DSL" service that may or may not have any dialtone, and other disconnected lines that may still have a dialtone or disconnected tone even though no longer having a valid phone number.

 

If you know what pair your DSL service is on, you can run wires to anywhere thats connected to an outlet in a useful place where you can plugin the modem. There is a special $20 tool for punching wires into Krone blocks, don't use the wrong tool (they can damage the contacts).





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