State of ISP throttling 2017

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# 214016 24-Apr-2017 10:47

So I got into an argument this week about ISP throttling In nz.

My take on it is that it's a non issue now with fibre going into alot of households. And the ISP handovers are up at the 10gb/sec on the fibre network.

Do you feel different ISP in nz should be advertising no throttleing in 2017.

Be good to get your thoughts.

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# 1769589 24-Apr-2017 10:56

If anything, faster customer access increases the demand for international bandwidth, which is still quite expensive. As this is the main reason to manage traffic or "throttle" in the first place, I don't grasp your line of thinking.

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# 1769595 24-Apr-2017 11:05

"throttling" is fairly ambiguous. Do you mean throttling after reaching a data quota?

I think they should absolutely throttle after reaching quotas if the person isn't prepared to pay for their fair share of the bandwidth pool. Especially now with muppets sitting on 1Gbps connection downloading the internet again. So placing a data quota makes people think twice about this sort of behaviour.

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# 1769600 24-Apr-2017 11:08

Hmm I don't understand what you mean.

Some ISPs are using the 'no throttleing' as a sales pitch to compare themselves with others.

My argument is that it's a 'non issue' so shouldn't need to be advertised.

My question to you was. Do you ever notice the effects of data throttling on your current internet connection. Or do you not. Hence the 'non issue'.

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# 1769602 24-Apr-2017 11:09

I think most ISPs will say that they dont 'throttle' data.

Any throttling that you might see is probably the limitation of bandwidth on the networks - national and international.

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# 1769611 24-Apr-2017 11:18

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It is really annoying when you see people complaining about New Zealand broadband these days (not the OP). I saw a "listicle" of people complaining about New Zealand on failblog and one of the things was comparing New Zealand broadband with a turtle.

These people never experienced US Internet (mainly mobile, which is terrible there) or, even worst, Australian Internet. UFB leaves NBN in the dust.

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# 1769615 24-Apr-2017 11:27

You talked about Access being faster, what I'm saying is that's not really relevant to the throttling issue (and if anything makes it more tempting to apply traffic management).

Perhaps though what you're really seeing is that no major ISPs still throttle traffic and so it's not a differentiator any more.

I think you will find that a lot of the "no throttling" language came about after backlash related to Xtra's "Go Large" - where full speed was implied, but in reality specific protocols were "traffic managed" to the point of being unusable.

https://www.comcom.govt.nz/the-commission/media-centre/media-releases/2009/telecom-fined-500-000-for-misleading-over-go-large-plan

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# 1769697 24-Apr-2017 12:34

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ISPs advertise "no throttling" . because their research tells them that a good chunk of customers believe (rightly or wrongly) that many ISPs throttle.

I'd have to agree. We still get a lot of posts on geekzone from people who's internet is slow and they very often blame ISP throttling.

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# 1769717 24-Apr-2017 13:19

Many ISPs say they "may" throttle but since unlimited accounts became the norm I do not think I have seen any examples of it actually happening (Vodafone cable pre-FibreX doesn't count :D).

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# 1769718 24-Apr-2017 13:21

Besides the new "unlimited/uninterrupted" mobile broadband plans, who still throttles? Who even has it as an option vs cap anymore?