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# 214039 25-Apr-2017 10:44
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Hi all,

 

Apologies if this has been asked before. I couldn't find the answers to my question, hence the post.

 

We have bought a rural property that is zoned for broadband through cable. The house site is 350m from the connection point at the road.

 

Our neighbour has speeds of over 16Mbps, so not shabby, but they're only 50m from the road connection.

 

Is broadband over a 350m run feasible? Also if so, what sort of cable will we need to trench to the site?

 

many thanks


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  # 1770127 25-Apr-2017 10:58
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ADSL is capable up to 7KM, if your neighbor is getting 16Mb/s sync rates and your using the same serving equipment and cable runs yours wouldnt be much off that.




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  # 1770128 25-Apr-2017 11:01
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Okay, good to know.

 

What sort of cable should I be putting into the ground to the site? The neighbour has no idea what they have.

 

Thanks.


 
 
 
 


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  # 1770130 25-Apr-2017 11:06
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masterexit:

 

Okay, good to know.

 

What sort of cable should I be putting into the ground to the site? The neighbour has no idea what they have.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

I'd be getting Chorus to do the work or a sparkie, Just standard phone cabling, Chorus certified stuff..
Green conduit, 300MM deep minimum IIRC.


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  # 1770132 25-Apr-2017 11:08
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You don't run any cable. You would run a draw wire.

Check out the Chorus website. It will tell you everything you need to know if you want to run your own conduit.

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  # 1770136 25-Apr-2017 11:17
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Even if you can buy the green conduit that Chorus use (which is doubtful) that's gonna be one hell of a lot of lengths of conduit you'd need.

 

Are the lengths 4 or 6 metres? Anyone know?


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  # 1770150 25-Apr-2017 11:32
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At that distance, if the terrain allows, I'd look at burying direct using a mole plough.




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  # 1770151 25-Apr-2017 11:36
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Generally the rule I've always gone by and was taught, is pipe the last 20m at the house end, and direct bury the rest. 450mm minimum, 600mm is advisable. Standard 2-pair phone wire will do, any sparky can do it, or if you drop a trench, Chorus will come and throw it in happily.


 
 
 
 


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  # 1770201 25-Apr-2017 14:06
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Only catch at that distance is your neighbour might be just in VDSL range, but add 300m and that's a big chunk of VDSL loss.




Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their xDSL broadband network faster and even more now as they are upgrading their rural Conklins. If your still stuck on ADSL or VDSL, why not spend $195 on a master filter install to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection?
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  # 1770211 25-Apr-2017 14:21
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toejam316:

 

Generally the rule I've always gone by and was taught, is pipe the last 20m at the house end, and direct bury the rest. 450mm minimum, 600mm is advisable. Standard 2-pair phone wire will do, any sparky can do it, or if you drop a trench, Chorus will come and throw it in happily.

 

 

Bang on. Chuck in some ducting close to the house because you will likely have concrete pads or just nice landscaping around that area. Outside of that direct bury is fine. Normally we would direct bury at the same depth as the power, just on the other side of the trench. Otherwise, power at 600, backfill 100 and then phone.

 

Best to just book a job through your provider (although good luck if that is anyone but Spark lol).


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  # 1770227 25-Apr-2017 15:48
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Yep, easiest way to get connected is order an new landline service from Spark. Once that's active, churn to broadband / phone provider or your choice.

 

 





Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their xDSL broadband network faster and even more now as they are upgrading their rural Conklins. If your still stuck on ADSL or VDSL, why not spend $195 on a master filter install to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection?
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  # 1770306 25-Apr-2017 19:23
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Thanks dor all the replies, much appreciated.

 

After reviewing the above, I contacted a local installer and he recommended using 4G extended with an antenna on the roof and a 4G LTE router.

 

Said the speeds will be trebled and the cost of trenching (for cabling negated).

 

Apparently <a href="https://www.greenfields.net.nz/">Greenfields</a> do a $99 unlimited data plan that rivals ADSL2. That sounds good to me.

 

 

 

 

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  # 1770391 26-Apr-2017 01:11

Check your address on https://broadbandmap.nz/ What does it say you can get? Also check on https://www.chorus.co.nz/broadband-checker As well. If it is possible to get VDSL I would go with that instead. And finally check https://www.chorus.co.nz/our-network/rural-broadband/rural-fibre As if you are able to get fibre connected despite living in the middle of nowhere. That would be really awesome.

 

 

 

Also that $99 unlimited wireless plan is unlikely to be offered via 4G (the cellphone network) As it looks like Greenfields are building their own mini wireless networks. So even if it is unlimited data, what would they be using for their uplinks? As if they are connecting 10+ people to 1 VDSL connection it won't be any fun.

 

 

 

4G extended since it uses the cellphone networks means there will be data caps. And sometimes slowdowns if too many people who happen to be connected to the same cellphone tower all try to use lots of data at the same time. Can you get 4G cellphone reception where you are?

 

 

 

If it is possible to get VDSL or fibre. I would go with that, As you will have a better connection, option of no data caps, and choice of ISPs. Sure install costs will probably be higher. But any cost saving on an internet connection quickly goes out the window if it becomes unreliable.

 

 

 

If you have a large road frontage, it could be worthwhile to find out where the cabinet is that provides the xDSL and try to connect as close as possible. Maybe even setting up your own little private cabinet on the boundary with a VDSL modem inside it. Then a long ethernet cable with repeaters if neccessary, Fixed Wifi link, private fibre run ect, to then get the internet to your house.






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  # 1770438 26-Apr-2017 08:45
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masterexit:

 

Hi all,

 

Apologies if this has been asked before. I couldn't find the answers to my question, hence the post.

 

We have bought a rural property that is zoned for broadband through cable. The house site is 350m from the connection point at the road.

 

Our neighbour has speeds of over 16Mbps, so not shabby, but they're only 50m from the road connection.

 

Is broadband over a 350m run feasible? Also if so, what sort of cable will we need to trench to the site?

 

many thanks

 

 

Has the house not currently got a phone line?

 

If you are buiding on a blank site, you are going to have to get power in also, so get the phone cable trenched at the same time.


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