Installing UFB in a 3 bedroom minor dwelling

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destro76

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#232261 7-Apr-2018 10:57

Hi All,

I'm in Auckland, currently in the process of moving within Auckland, and am wanting to transfer my UFB connection. The house I'm moving to is the rear of 2 (has its own 'A' address) but is listed with the council as a minor dwelling (no such address exists when I enter it in my providers automatic form fill address field).

I'm not sure if the front house already has UFB installed, but if it does, is installing a second ONT (to my house) still free (if the front house has a UFB connection)? Or will there be installation costs due to there only being one address legally registered (i.e. a new ONT installation will be considered a second installation at the same address)?

Thanks in advance,

Destro76

afe66

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#1990972 7-Apr-2018 12:11

Is it a separate title? What does your landlord say?

Or is it a variation on an outhouse/granny flat on someone else's property ?

Separate power/phone connections from other property?

destro76

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Wannabe Geek

#1990977 7-Apr-2018 12:23

afe66:

Is it a separate title? What does your landlord say?

Or is it a variation on an outhouse/granny flat on someone else's property ?

Separate power/phone connections from other property?

Hi Afe66, thanks for your reply. This is the reply from the Property Agent:

"Spoke with a planning representative at the Council, your property is listed as a minor dwelling on their system; however your property is listed under 15 XXXXXX Drive..."

It's a 3 bedroom house at the rear of another house, it's address is '15a', and I'm assuming it has separate water/power connections as previous bills are addressed to '15a' or 'A/15' and water/power is not included in rent. I'm assuming from the above reply quote from the Property Address that it's not on a separate title (i.e. isn't subdivided)?

destro76

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Wannabe Geek

#1990979 7-Apr-2018 12:25

afe66:

Is it a separate title? What does your landlord say?

Or is it a variation on an outhouse/granny flat on someone else's property ?

Separate power/phone connections from other property?

*Property Manager, not 'Address'

I've also found out that the front house has UFB.

Goosey

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#1991004 7-Apr-2018 12:53

have you tried searching the council rates register for the said address?

15A XXX Street and 1/15 XXX Street

afe66

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#1991053 7-Apr-2018 14:21

IANAL

I would suspect that if its not a legally different property chorus would only give one free install per property.

There is a post on geekzone from a couple of days where someone has a minor dwelling in the back of their property.

Search for " Installing two ETPs - one without connection". Its in the NZ broadband subforum

destro76

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Wannabe Geek

#1991089 7-Apr-2018 15:38

Goosey:

have you tried searching the council rates register for the said address?

15A XXX Street and 1/15 XXX Street

I just tried. No such luck - only '15' comes up

afe66:

IANAL

I would suspect that if its not a legally different property chorus would only give one free install per property.

There is a post on geekzone from a couple of days where someone has a minor dwelling in the back of their property.

Search for " Installing two ETPs - one without connection". Its in the NZ broadband subforum

I'm strongly suspecting that as well. My provider just keeps replying with "we'll have to process a second ONT" but won't say if it'll cost even though I've asked multiple times. Thanks for the thread link. I guess the next step would be to find out whether 2 conduits were laid when the front house got their fibre.

I'm a bit upset with the Property Manager atm as I asked them if I could get fibre installed when I was looking at renting the house and they never mentioned this. They would've known as they manage the front property and said words to the same effect as this in her reply email:

"...I would say that there has been no line connection before to any of the properties, as the front tenants only moved in a few years ago; and when I completed and emailed back the consent form for fibre to be installed to both properties I thought it had been completed..."

I'm under the impression that fibre gets freely installed only when someone requests a connection (i.e. wants to have a fibre plan), not just because you request a house to have a connection just in case some future tenant wants to have fibre. Why would she have to complete a consent form if the front tenants hadn't applied for fibre from an ISP?

quickymart

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#1991184 7-Apr-2018 17:39

If it's classed as a second line, it's probably chargeable. The Property Manager probably wouldn't know about this.

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MullyAKL

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#2009104 7-May-2018 11:42

Hello,

The thread linked to above ("Two ETPs") is mine.

Visionstream came to have a look, and apparently, because Council only show it as a SDU, they've only put one fibre strand thingy in the street for us (in fact, for all the houses, and 9/10 are home and income/minor dwelling).

Apparently, once Council's records are updated, "someone" (undetermined) will run additional fibre strand thingies to the houses that apply.

Although, it sounds from this thread that that's not true. Awkward.

Chorusnz

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Chorus

#2009300 7-May-2018 15:32

Hi All, It's true we lay fibre for each listed property. So if the property was not listed at the time of the fibre rollout they would be no connection point sitting in the street waiting for it.

You can still order fibre, but the network in the street would have to be augmented to allow for the extra/unknown property.

This would not cost you extra to get installed but Chorus will have to do extra work to add a extra connection point in the street.

^Mike

MullyAKL

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#2009301 7-May-2018 15:36

Chorusnz:

This would not cost you extra to get installed but Chorus will have to do extra work to add a extra connection point in the street.

^Mike

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaalllyyy?

The Visionstream guy did say there would be spare thingies available in the local "box" (but I wasn't sure of the location of that or who would suck the $$ to run it to the house....)

He couldn't even install one cos Vector hadn't turned up to plug us into the grid (and turned up about 20 minutes after he'd left).

Thanks Mike. Super duper helpful.