Fibre Removal - House being Demolished

Forums › New Zealand Broadband › Fibre Removal - House being Demolished

Rabbitcat

3 posts

Wannabe Geek

Topic # 240233 27-Aug-2018 20:58

Hi all,

We've got a house that is due to be demolished, and as part of being a good citizen asked Chorus for a quote for the removal of the fibre back to the footpath.

Chorus have duly obliged and provided a quote. $1288.

The house is a single story, art deco, 100m2 house, with good subfloor access. It's then got to be removed from about 10m of front lawn.

Anyone else had similar quotes? Or offer suggestions?

Easier to ask forgiveness and DIY?

1 | 2

231 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 53

Reply # 2079999 27-Aug-2018 21:17

DIY

$1288 is a ripoff

you could almost unscrew the ETP off the wall and pull the micro duct out of the spade depth trench and coil it up and leave it by the fence.

UHD

656 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 303
Inactive user

Reply # 2080017 27-Aug-2018 21:48

Will you be replacing the demolished home? If so, I'd be tempted to yank out all the kit back to the fence and request a new build install when the new house is going in. You might even have a chance to duct it under the lawn properly then too.

xpd

Chief Trash Bandit
9055 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1406

Mod Emeritus

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

Reply # 2080095 28-Aug-2018 09:51

For 1% of their quote - https://www.bunnings.co.nz/square-mouth-metal-shovel-white_p02972029

XPD / Gavin / DemiseNZ

For Free Games, Geekiness and Reviews, visit :

Home Of The Overrated Raccoons

Battlenet : XPD#11535 Origin/Steam/Epic/Uplay : xpdnz

Jase2985

7775 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2565

Subscriber

Reply # 2080302 28-Aug-2018 14:50

Ask them for a breakdown of the costs. I believe they have to provide that.

seems overly excessive

would be keen to see the breakdown though

Rabbitcat

3 posts

Wannabe Geek

Reply # 2080331 28-Aug-2018 15:38

The shovel approach certainly has entered my mind. As has the DIY one.

Have emailed them to ask for clarification, and confirmation that there hasn't really been a repeated typo or mistake, and the quote is actually $1288.

Will also ask for the breakdown.

Another frustrating thing, was that the tenant (who has now left) had the fibre installed circa 6 months ago, so Chorus should have lots of install photos. Which in my mind meant they didn't really need to do a survey to scope work needed.

hio77

'That VDSL Cat'
8901 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1953

Trusted

Spark

Subscriber

Reply # 2080349 28-Aug-2018 16:46

Hopefully @chorusnz can provide a bit of a guide on this one.

it will really depend on Quite a few factors, some being making back costs of install - only being 6 months likely this hasn't paid itself off yet.

opting for a spade removal would technically be damage of chorus goods so it's worth considering risks there too.

I do feel like over 1K for 10M of fibre seems a tad high...

#include <std_disclaimer>

Any comments made are personal opinion and do not reflect directly on the position my current or past employers may have.

DarthKermit

4482 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2477

Trusted

Reply # 2080361 28-Aug-2018 17:33

I'll do it for $50 and a dozen of beer.

InstallerUFB

810 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 207

Reply # 2080365 28-Aug-2018 17:50

One person supports this post

Even for someone who actual does the removals it seems a bit high - btw its not just the section across the lawn that gets removed - the fibre is removed all the way back to the terminal - the spliter connection to it is parked up - the microducting (if that is was has been installed is disconnect at the boundary and capped off, marked and often reburied, the section to the house is abandoned) and the record of the connection is removed from the records so that it doesnt come back as existing when a reconnection is requested when a new house or houses are built

mattwnz

14408 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1885

Reply # 2080374 28-Aug-2018 18:20

I think it could be a case of asking the right questions to the right person. Even at $100 per hour, that is 12 hours of work!

Batman

Mad Scientist
19112 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2484

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

Reply # 2080376 28-Aug-2018 18:35

2 people support this post

It's probably something like

- call out $100

- use of some tool $388

- insertion of some stuff $369

- health and safety equipment and signage $317

- disposal cost $136

- labour $150

Swype on iOS is detrimental to accurate typing. Apologies in advance.

chevrolux

3621 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1343

Subscriber

Reply # 2080524 29-Aug-2018 03:43

Its Chorus' ludicrous hourly rate that is bumping that up for sure.

Honestly, depends how you feel. Likely scenario is when the new house gets built just request a new connection and it will be done for free. Half the time Chorus dont know their ass from their elbow when it comes to existing connections.

BarTender

2445 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 840

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

Reply # 2080530 29-Aug-2018 07:10

I dunno, how much is it going to cost to get electricity disconnected from your house? How about if you have Gas / Water / Stormwater / Sewerage? How much is all of that going to cost.

Yeah I know that $2k seems expensive, but if you compare it to the average cost of Gas connection at 10k, or moving your mains leadin at $3-4k it seems quite cheap.

You're demolishing the house, and obviously have the money to build a brand new one. The total cost will be much less than %1 the total bill and I suspect you will be back here complaining when it costs a similar amount to connect you to UFB as your house has *already* had the free installation.

I'm struggling with how this is a problem and is just an associated cost with rebuilding your house.

Coil

6175 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1895

Trusted

Reply # 2080535 29-Aug-2018 07:31

One person supports this post

As an ex sparky it was common practice just to cut services then roll them back to the boundary or leave in ground.
Will still need to pay an install fee..
Why would it be any different than copper, just dont stare down it.

To get power removed from the house its like $160 for an inspector or HV man to pull the fuse in the pit. You pay your sparky to do what ever needs doing on your side of the fence.

chevrolux

3621 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1343

Subscriber

Reply # 2080543 29-Aug-2018 07:53

2 people support this post

BarTender:
I dunno, how much is it going to cost to get electricity disconnected from your house? How about if you have Gas / Water / Stormwater / Sewerage? How much is all of that going to cost.

Yeah I know that $2k seems expensive, but if you compare it to the average cost of Gas connection at 10k, or moving your mains leadin at $3-4k it seems quite cheap.

You're demolishing the house, and obviously have the money to build a brand new one. The total cost will be much less than %1 the total bill and I suspect you will be back here complaining when it costs a similar amount to connect you to UFB as your house has *already* had the free installation.

I'm struggling with how this is a problem and is just an associated cost with rebuilding your house.

The difference is gas and electricity that isn't removed properly is mega dangerous.

Chorus are just maximising profit on their shiny new asset that is basically being gifted to them by the tax payer.

Chorusnz

258 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 280

Trusted

Chorus NZ

Reply # 2080791 29-Aug-2018 13:27

Hi @Rabbitcat,

did you contact us directly our contact your provider?

There's a few different options depending on whats the desired outcome.

To begin with do you want the network completely removed forever or do you want to connect up again when a new house is built?

^Mike

1 | 2