Guessing how fibre will be run in my street

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#245223 24-Jan-2019 11:58

Chorus UFB is scheduled to be run down our street in the second half of this year. I want to have an underground (actually underground, not 'spade depth') install for obvious geek reasons. I'm thinking about this now to ensure I do everything I can to prepare for/influence this.

Because the house was recently subdivided and is running off Vodafone FibreX without any Chorus lead-in, the usual maxim of 'fibre will be run the same way your copper is run' doesn't apply. My driveway is gravel on sand, so easy to dig a deep trench within my property.

The following pretty picture shows my house as 'me', with an orange dot where I'd like the ETP to go. Overhead power lines are strung between poles marked as black dots on my side of the road. Chorus copper runs underground on the opposite side of the road, between the poles marked as blue dots, and most houses are severed aerially from these poles, in some cases stopping over on the power poles. I presume that fibre will probably be run on the opposite side of the road to mimic the copper network, although there are more dwellings on my side.

Questions:

1. Because of the narrow shape of my property near the street, I can't be served aerially from any existing poles (Chorus or power), without crossing over a neighbours property. Does this rule out an aerial fibre lead-in completely?

2. If Chorus did run the communal fibre down my side of the street, would they leave a 'drop' for me outside my boundary? Or would they leave it by the power pole, as most people on the street are served aerially?

3. Can Chorus bury my fibre lead-in (distinct from the communal network) across my neighbour's street frontage (along their berm and under their driveway? Would this require my neighbours permission? I know that it's technically road reserve, but people feel like they own it.

4. If I dig a trench, get Chorus to put their lead-in in it, and Chorus log the location, do you think it would influence the network design to have a 'drop' left in front of my driveway (if they were installing the communal network on my side of the street)?

Appreciate that these things aren't neccessarily certain, but keen to hear your wisdom

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#2166857 24-Jan-2019 12:01

Pretty sure Chorus have put their whole network underground, one of the reasons it's taking longer.

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#2166858 24-Jan-2019 12:04

DarthKermit:

Pretty sure Chorus have put their whole network underground, one of the reasons it's taking longer.

That's great! I know some of the neighboring areas have overhead fibre with new Chorus poles, so was preparing for the worst.

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#2166859 24-Jan-2019 12:12

DarthKermit:

Pretty sure Chorus have put their whole network underground, one of the reasons it's taking longer.

No, they haven't.

The fibre coming to our house come from an pole, the fibre is run along the poles house to house (there are fibre boxes attached to the poles too).

Ours comes down the pole and underground to our house (along the same conduit the copper came in).

We are a Chorus area (Waiheke Island).

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#2166862 24-Jan-2019 12:17

trig42:

DarthKermit:

Pretty sure Chorus have put their whole network underground, one of the reasons it's taking longer.

No, they haven't.

The fibre coming to our house come from an pole, the fibre is run along the poles house to house (there are fibre boxes attached to the poles too).

Ours comes down the pole and underground to our house (along the same conduit the copper came in).

We are a Chorus area (Waiheke Island).

I have the same at my property. We are underground for all services, but 95% of the road is overhead, so the fibre is run along pole to pole, with the black fibre boxes on each pole they're tacked along.

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#2166908 24-Jan-2019 12:36

evilonenz:

I have the same at my property. We are underground for all services, but 95% of the road is overhead, so the fibre is run along pole to pole, with the black fibre boxes on each pole they're tacked along.

My friends install was a mix....... overhead in the street, then ran down the pole, and underground to the property. Entire street is like this.

Funny thing I found with that, was anyone with a nasty streak could wander along with a hatchet and cut everyones cables.....

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#2166913 24-Jan-2019 12:42

xpd: My friends install was a mix....... overhead in the street, then ran down the pole, and underground to the property. Entire street is like this.

It was the opposite for my street. Fibre underground, then up the power pole and overhead to the house.

Six months later the power company (Horizon) removed the poles so the fibre to my house is now underground. A couple of hard-to-reach houses are now served from new Chorus poles.

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#2166920 24-Jan-2019 12:47

xpd:

evilonenz:

I have the same at my property. We are underground for all services, but 95% of the road is overhead, so the fibre is run along pole to pole, with the black fibre boxes on each pole they're tacked along.

My friends install was a mix....... overhead in the street, then ran down the pole, and underground to the property. Entire street is like this.

Funny thing I found with that, was anyone with a nasty streak could wander along with a hatchet and cut everyones cables.....

Yeah, the installs down my road are hit and miss. They 'semi' undergrounded mine, I've got it run on the side of a fence up my driveway (around 30m), and then trenched into my property, it does come off the pit via underground, though, so it won't be hard for me to rid myself of the ugliness of the fence being used as an installation method, just bizarre how others down my road have underground, but their fibre feed is aerial, for no apparent reason, as it doesn't follow their copper.

FYI, my roads build is only 9 to 12 months old now.

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#2166982 24-Jan-2019 14:58

Every property is different and as such, installs have to be tailored. Down a given street you can have some properties aerial and some along an underground route. Even within the same shared driveway I’ve seen different methods used for each property.

The architecture in the street, will follow the existing copper network as closely as it can. This is the biggest factor determining your individual install path which is why we say generally the Fibre will follow the same route as your copper.

@nickb800 send us a message with your address, ill pull up the lay plan for your street and find out the proposed install route for you. Then I can answer your questions properly.

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#2167006 24-Jan-2019 15:39

DarthKermit:

Pretty sure Chorus have put their whole network underground, one of the reasons it's taking longer.

It's a combination of both underground and overhead.

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#2167010 24-Jan-2019 15:50

My parents have fibre overhead into the house

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#2167017 24-Jan-2019 16:04

DarthKermit:

Pretty sure Chorus have put their whole network underground, one of the reasons it's taking longer.

tried to nail my fibre to the fence. told them to cut the dig up driveway to lay it down.

Balm its gone!

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#2167043 24-Jan-2019 17:30

Our suburb is aerial, but our neighbour built a new house and pre-buried conduit between the street pole and where they wanted the ETP on their house. Chorus lapped it up, and it only took 5 visits to get it working.

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#2167049 24-Jan-2019 17:44

We live on a street with overhead copper lines which is odd in invercargill and then they installed our fibre to the ETP via underground ducting, maybe they wanted to get rid of the overhead network and just keep it underground as there were perfectly fine concrete poles

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#2167410 25-Jan-2019 12:44

Many thanks to Chorus for checking out the plans for me. Fibre will be run down the opposite side of the road to me, but will be thrusted under the road to a pit in front of my place, as I cannot be served aerially without aerial trespass. I'm very happy.