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#251139 10-Jun-2019 15:03
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Sorry this is such a broad question but what is "best" for me?

 

How do I decide between the many varied options and different pricing brackets for what (on paper) looks like a similar product?

 

 

 

Also are ALL UFB providers compatible with Google WiFi, Netgear Orbi, etc.? I remember a while ago seeing that some UFB services were NOT compatible with Apple AirPort Extreme routers so thought I should check this as I will need some sort of mesh system for my home.

 

 

 

Thanks in advance.


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  #2255363 10-Jun-2019 15:41
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the question is how do you use the internet, that will help people help you

 

 

 

google wifi will generally need another router infront of it as it can not handle VLAN tagging at the moment, orbi does i believe. airport is the same as google wifi. but much older tech


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  #2255369 10-Jun-2019 15:51
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Given gigatown is about to go out of market, Possibly none?

 

 

 

Netgear Orbi supports PPPoE Vlan tagging, Google Wifi and Airport do not.





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  #2255374 10-Jun-2019 15:56
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hio77:

 

Given gigatown is about to go out of market, Possibly none?

 

 

What does this mean? If they turn it off do we just get downgraded to 200Mbps?

 

hio77:

 

Netgear Orbi supports PPPoE Vlan tagging, Google Wifi and Airport do not.

 

 

Does this mean Google WiFi WORKS but requires a modem also? Or does it mean I can't use the Google WiFi WITH UFB? 

Please excuse my ignorance.


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  #2255381 10-Jun-2019 16:07
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If you want to use a Google/Apple router then you'll need to go with an ISP that doesn't use tagging.




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  #2255387 10-Jun-2019 16:17
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Behodar:

 

If you want to use a Google/Apple router then you'll need to go with an ISP that doesn't use tagging.

 

 

Thanks - is that list up to date???

 

That list states that Spark and Orcon are both "Yes" to VLAN tagging yet BOTH of these ISPs list and sell Google WiFi to compliment their services??


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  #2255394 10-Jun-2019 16:29
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As far as I'm aware it's up to date. I think Spark's official word is that you connect the Google Wi-Fi to the Spark-provided router.




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  #2255395 10-Jun-2019 16:32
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Behodar:

 

As far as I'm aware it's up to date. I think Spark's official word is that you connect the Google Wi-Fi to the Spark-provided router.

 


How does this differ to using an ISP with NO VLAN tagging? Don't you have to do this regardless? Again sorry if these are ignorant questions.


 
 
 
 


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  #2255397 10-Jun-2019 16:34
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The ISP-provided router will handle any tagging. If your ISP doesn't require tagging then you don't need the separate router. As a real-world example, my ISP doesn't require tagging and I'm using an AirPort, which is directly plugged into the ONT.


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  #2255399 10-Jun-2019 16:39
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Hi, is there any reason you specifically want a mesh system, could you not go with a router and maybe UniFi WAPs.

 

As for the need or not for tagging, no its not required, hence some ISPs do without it, however without it some applications like VOIP may not be able to access q priority. That there are few downsides to not having it.

 

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  #2255405 10-Jun-2019 16:46
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cyril7:

 

Hi, is there any reason you specifically want a mesh system, could you not go with a router and maybe UniFi WAPs.

 

As for the need or not for tagging, no its not required, hence some ISPs do without it, however without it some applications like VOIP may not be able to access q priority. That there are few downsides to not having it.

 

Cyril

 

 

I have a big house with WiFi dead spots - are there better options than Mesh?


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  #2255410 10-Jun-2019 16:59
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Hi by mesh I assume you wish to wirelessly up link various access points, if so that is not ideal, these should be cabled if possible.

If you can achieve that then you can use waps that may or may not support mesh.

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  #2255411 10-Jun-2019 17:02
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dunnersdude:

 

cyril7:

 

Hi, is there any reason you specifically want a mesh system, could you not go with a router and maybe UniFi WAPs.

 

As for the need or not for tagging, no its not required, hence some ISPs do without it, however without it some applications like VOIP may not be able to access q priority. That there are few downsides to not having it.

 

Cyril 

 

I have a big house with WiFi dead spots - are there better options than Mesh? 

 

If it's of any help, I have Orbi AC3000 kit in a largish two story house using an ISP who require tagging. Works just fine and I have removed the ISP supplied router from the mix.




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  #2255417 10-Jun-2019 17:27
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allan:

 

dunnersdude:

 

cyril7:

 

Hi, is there any reason you specifically want a mesh system, could you not go with a router and maybe UniFi WAPs.

 

As for the need or not for tagging, no its not required, hence some ISPs do without it, however without it some applications like VOIP may not be able to access q priority. That there are few downsides to not having it.

 

Cyril 

 

I have a big house with WiFi dead spots - are there better options than Mesh? 

 

If it's of any help, I have Orbi AC3000 kit in a largish two story house using an ISP who require tagging. Works just fine and I have removed the ISP supplied router from the mix.

 

 

Thanks heaps - what does removing the ISP router do? And is this only possible if landline is not required?




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  #2255418 10-Jun-2019 17:29
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cyril7: Hi by mesh I assume you wish to wirelessly up link various access points, if so that is not ideal, these should be cabled if possible.

If you can achieve that then you can use waps that may or may not support mesh.

Cyril

 

Unfortunately wiring is just a bit difficult for our home...


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  #2255420 10-Jun-2019 17:36
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dunnersdude:

 

hio77:

 

Given gigatown is about to go out of market, Possibly none?

 

 

What does this mean? If they turn it off do we just get downgraded to 200Mbps?

 

 

Gigatown is a special promotion plan for Dunedin that will end soon.

 

You can still buy a gigabit connection, it's functionally equivalent to gigatown, just more expensive.


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