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Master Geek


# 254361 8-Aug-2019 18:31
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Hey all,

 

Had new fibre install the other day and he laid the cable at a depth of a shovel is this normal?

 

Upon checking chorus web site it says 450mm seems very shallow thoughts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Ultimate Geek


  # 2292493 8-Aug-2019 18:40
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That's what they do. It's why I tend to duct it myself on any installs I'm having converted. Tends to rise up if the area is prone to a bit of flooding then along comes the lawnmower/weedwhacker...

 

Techs not following Chorus guidelines for things like this is nothing new at all. I'm sure there are some who follow it (somewhere???) but even when running copper lead ins I remember being told Chorus wanted to do some particular ones in rural areas because they wanted to futureproof for fibre. Tech comes along, throws cable in trench and only has conduit sticking out each end (not the entire run).

 

Go figure!




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  # 2292494 8-Aug-2019 18:44
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My worry if someone cuts or digs in that area, the last thing I want chorus doing is charging me for it when they did not make it deep enough.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2292498 8-Aug-2019 18:49
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startupgeek:

 

My worry if someone cuts or digs in that area, the last thing I want chorus doing is charging me for it when they did not make it deep enough.

 

 

A similar thing has happened and was posted on here a while back where someone's neighbour accidentially cut their fibre lead in. Chorus agreed it was a crap install and covered the cost. The only annoying thing is when this happens you obviously lose service.


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  # 2292501 8-Aug-2019 18:57
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At least it is below ground, unlike some!


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  # 2292545 8-Aug-2019 19:11
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There is a dichotomy between the Chorus website recommending 450 mm down and what Chorus pays the installers per job. Hence the spade's depth and no conduit to be seen.




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  # 2292546 8-Aug-2019 19:15
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I wonder if I complained to chorus about the depth what they would actually say lol


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Ultimate Geek


  # 2292549 8-Aug-2019 19:22
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I had chrous tech's tell me the website was out of date and they only had to go 150mm down.

 

Some have these things like a chain saw to do the trench, if they used that they would be fine.

 

John





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  # 2292557 8-Aug-2019 19:58
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startupgeek:

 

I wonder if I complained to chorus about the depth what they would actually say lol

 

 

i would suggest they wouldnt say anything


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Uber Geek


  # 2292610 8-Aug-2019 21:08
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I will do Chorus' response for them...

The install is done to our usual *sniggers* high standards. At this stage we just want to get installs done the absolute cheapest way possible so we can start milking this cash cow. It's all good, our *sniggers* trained techs do thousands of these a week. And the microduct is like, *sniggers* really strong.

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  # 2292613 8-Aug-2019 21:19
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we are building nz a high quality, robust network.


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Ultimate Geek


  # 2292614 8-Aug-2019 21:22
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there's room for everyone.........


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  # 2292621 8-Aug-2019 21:48
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Jase2985:

 

we are building nz a high quality, robust network.

 

 

Almost as robust as the 4G wireless networks.. Least those cant have the medium between modem and termination point cut :P

 

 

 

I feel sorry for the social media chorus folk to be honest, they get to face up to the brunt of these sorts of installs that we all bash on.





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  # 2292626 8-Aug-2019 22:14
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Yep, agreed. It must suck to be a front line Chorus employee.

The higher ups have squeezed every last cent of profit out of this build and the front line have to deal with it. Sub-standard install methods, low paid and unskilled contractors, and stupid time pressures.

To be fair, not just isolated to Chorus. The other LFCs are guilty too, just to differing extents.

Queue the Tui billboard...
The UFB network is built to last!

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  # 2292632 8-Aug-2019 22:37
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My trench was 100m long and done with the chainsaw thing.

 

Was probably easier than doing it by spade.





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Master Geek


  # 2292633 8-Aug-2019 22:37
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I mean all and all the installer was super helpful only 1 guy out in the rain getting it done for me.

 

He told me chorus have cut cost and being a tight arss to contractors.

 

 


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