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# 254468 13-Aug-2019 14:04
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Very shortly (Hopefully!) I'll have my UFB installed. I have a couple of questions around the scope and what flexibility I might have and recommendations around how to ensure a good tidy job is completed.

 

 

 

I have VDSL Now and it terminates in the corner of my garage indicated by the Red Arrow. I'd like my ONT installed in the lounge behind the AV gear, which is where my cabling terminates but I cannot see a practical way to get the ONT there. The purple arrow is where my master filter is, in my home office and that's probably the easiest for Chorus to get to especially since there is CAT5E cable between the Red and Purple Arrow, against the skirting, and through the wall into my home office.  The primary question is how Chorus would likely get the cable from the Green Arrow where the Fibre is in the street, down the driveway and into my home? There is a small garden strip which runs down the brown fence and the one down the left side of the driveway that my neighbour often plants her stuff in kindly. Would they likely run it down the same (presumably) condiuit that my copper services are in or do something else? I'd quite like to avoid capping on the fence given it's not in fantastic condition and likely to be replaced or signficantly repaired in the coming 2-3 years.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any guidance would be appreciated.

 

 


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  # 2296526 13-Aug-2019 14:11
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Unfortunately, knowing Chorus, it'll be the easiest way possible, which is likely to be tacked to the fence in the screen cap from Google Maps. I had usable conduit that my previous copper ran to the house in, which was completely refused during scope, so they cut the driveway up, cemented the cable in, and then proceeded with this lovely install: 

 

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Hopefully you manage to get a better set of plans signed off for your install, but do not be surprised if they will only tack to a fence. Only option I had was to remedy myself once the install was completed.




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  # 2296533 13-Aug-2019 14:17
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Yeah I guess I'll see what the scoper has to say. I'd REALLY like to avoid capped to the fence, but I also don't want a protracted install...


 
 
 
 


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  # 2296535 13-Aug-2019 14:23
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By the looks of it too, you'll also be MDU/ROW install like mine was? I had issues with them sending out the consent and plan packs, to which none of the houses involved ever received any of the paperwork at all, so I'd say keep on top of them in that department, as with mine, I showed up from work one day, and the cuts in the driveway, and the ruggedized cable was already on the fence without any input whats so ever.




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  # 2296536 13-Aug-2019 14:25
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Thankfully that driveway (including the fence) belongs to us, and Chorus already confirmed no consents other than mine are required.


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  # 2296635 13-Aug-2019 16:09
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I would guess, they 'bury' the microduct on the left of driveway in the garden all the way up to the house. Then a saw cut across to the red arrow (that will probably look like it's been done by Michael J Fox), and then mount the ETP.

 

Or they might not be completely useless and at least try to draw it up your current duct if it's in good condition.




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  # 2296638 13-Aug-2019 16:12
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If they are going to "saw" through concrete, then there is no real reason they can't put it in the lounge I think, that would be an excellent outcome.

 

The only issue with that plan is half the length of that side is garden, and the remainder is hedges, and I wonder if the roots might cause them issues re burying it.

 

 


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  # 2296684 13-Aug-2019 16:22
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Hi, so what does you ETP appear like, and is there any sign of conduit carrying the current copper, if this exists (ie not direct buried copper) and the cable can be pulled then you win.

 

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  # 2297633 13-Aug-2019 16:40
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I can check, but there is a little square box the copper comes into outside the garage at ground level. I believe there is some form of conduit, but I don't see any sign of it anywhere I have noticed in 13 years of living here. It was a brand new build when we moved in however from a subdivision.  It was 95% completed at the time of purchase.

 

 


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  # 2297635 13-Aug-2019 16:56
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Hi so built in 2006, so 99.9% it's in conduit, but now the worry it will snag.

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  # 2297642 13-Aug-2019 17:16
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I recently had my fibre installed. I'm at the end of a fairly long and shared driveway. Definitely longer than yours. Originall plans had a mixture of buried and exposed (tacked to a fence) cables. Two of us complained and said we wanted it buried all the way. Chorus agreed to the change.

So it's totally possible to get plans changed and get the cable completely buried. Some of it is soft trenched and some cut into concrete (micro trench?).

It's worth asking!

Yes our process did take longer than it would have if we accepted the original design. But it wasn't all that long. A few months all up.

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  # 2297662 13-Aug-2019 18:30
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Yea I would agree with Cyril, 99.9999% chance your copper is in a 20mm telecom conduit. So should be dead easy to throw a rod down it to pull a fibre/microduct through.

Being modern, the hope is it was laid properly and doesnt have unnecessary bends in it. If it were me though, I would try very very hard to get something through before exploring a new path. Dont let a lazy/under-paid chorus tech persuade you otherwise.

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  # 2297692 13-Aug-2019 20:52
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DIY the hell out of it read the rules and trench it yourself to spec from point to point and have the guys turn up on the day to connect at the boundary and blow the fiber.................................................................................... you will need to bribe someone

 

 

 

or go find the contract from the government to the LFC's and quote the section that says LIKE FOR LIKE! then wait for 5 months in an email game.....

 

 





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If you want to avoid the tack it to the fence solution see if you can run a draw string through the 20mm telecom conduit.

 

My installer was going to run the fiber along the fence until I told him there was a draw string through a conduit from the boundary to the house. I also provided conduit with a draw string to the point inside where I wanted the ONT located.

 

His response, "cool that makes my job easier".





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  # 2297773 14-Aug-2019 05:10
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if you do have a duct you can tie a small plastic bag to a piece of string and use a vacuum cleaner to try and suck it through the duct to give you a draw string for the installer.


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  # 2297790 14-Aug-2019 07:19
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Vacuuming a string through is a bit tough in reality. You need a wet vac for starters (or make a water catch). Even doing big cables they dont vacuum anymore, too much work and a bit dangerous at times.

It's a million times easier to just rod the duct. In this instance it will be a nice big 20mm telecom so not hard at all.

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