Can I really get xDSL or is the checker lying?

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#271673 21-May-2020 17:08

Hi all,
About to move into a rural property in Southland. I want unlimited broadband if possible as wireless rbi is not cheap. I plugged the address into Spark’s website and it says I can get ADSL or VDSL. Since the property is quite remote, so I think otherwise. I used the chorus checker and it says that xDSL may be available. Would anyone at spark or chorus be able to check for me?

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#2488849 21-May-2020 17:15

DM me the address, i'll take a peak.

Highly likely it's not a fully conclusive result, pretty sure chorus moved to showing may be available as they can't indicate speeds correctly.

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#2488884 21-May-2020 19:24

Data on estimated speeds are done on comps in the area, you may need a manual prequal done

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#2488891 21-May-2020 19:49

nztim: Data on estimated speeds are done on comps in the area, you may need a manual prequal done

i seem to recall a project that did alot more than that.....

anyway, this has coils on it... I've requested manual and let the OP know some alternative options.

I wouldn't say it's lying, but it's not quite explaining the situation too well. (Copper is complex) I'll pass feedback to the folk who now look after the online journey :)

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#2488912 21-May-2020 20:08

hio77:
nztim: Data on estimated speeds are done on comps in the area, you may need a manual prequal done

i seem to recall a project that did alot more than that.....

anyway, this has coils on it... I've requested manual and let the OP know some alternative options.

I wouldn't say it's lying, but it's not quite explaining the situation too well. (Copper is complex) I'll pass feedback to the folk who now look after the online journey :)

Coils tells me that is a flat no, sounds like he is a long way from any active gear

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#2488914 21-May-2020 20:11

nztim:

Coils tells me that is a flat no, sounds like he is a long way from any active gear

Depends on approach really. but your right, alternatives are highly more likely to be the best option.

Alot of locations that have been upgraded as part of Exit ATM didn't have the coils removed. when i first got ADSL, i was on a coil for a few years..

I wouldn't wish that pain upon anyone! (64/64k was still better than dialup though... plus the phone works!)

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#2488921 21-May-2020 20:22

Chorus' hesitance to remove loading coils has always baffled me - there's plenty of places I've seen where loaded pairs stopped otherwise perfectly serviceable customers from having a decent connection. It's not terribly hard to do, I could probably unload a cable in a day, and it's been a few years now since I've had the spade in hand or any relevant tools.

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#2488959 21-May-2020 21:41

nztim:
Coils tells me that is a flat no, sounds like he is a long way from any active gear

It’s bad news since the coverage maps for rbi say that there is 4G but there is not. 3G is pretty poor and my guess will get no better then 5 mbps. The property is located in Papatotara, Western Southland - about 5 km from the Tuatapere exchange and about 6 km from what @hio77 said, was a bonded dsl backhaul’d isam down the road and up the hill. I assume that the cabinet would have been upgraded from a conklin (yes, @hio77 said conklin) because of a new property development.

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#2488962 21-May-2020 21:48

halper86:
nztim:
Coils tells me that is a flat no, sounds like he is a long way from any active gear

It’s bad news since the coverage maps for rbi say that there is 4G but there is not. 3G is pretty poor and my guess will get no better then 5 mbps. The property is located in Papatotara, Western Southland - about 5 km from the Tuatapere exchange and about 6 km from what @hio77 said, was a bonded dsl backhaul’d isam down the road and up the hill. I assume that the cabinet would have been upgraded from a conklin (yes, @hio77 said conklin) because of a new property development.

I would highly suspect your mobile device doesn't support L700 / Band 28.

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#2488965 21-May-2020 21:55

https://broadbandmap.nz/availability/-46.1594315571277/167.608028542674?address=Papatotara shows that wireless is probably your best option.

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#2488966 21-May-2020 22:00

hio77:
I would highly suspect your mobile device doesn't support L700 / Band 28.

Yes it does. I am with voda for my mobile though, however I have had someone visit with me on spark.

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#2488967 21-May-2020 22:01

quickymart:
https://broadbandmap.nz/availability/-46.1594315571277/167.608028542674?address=Papatotara shows that wireless is probably your best option.

Yes i’ve decided instead of guessing how it is going to be, I am going to get wireless with an antenna from spark

-e- definitely ruling out voda for rbi since the closest 4g site is 30km away. might be time to switch my mobile to spark too.

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#2488990 21-May-2020 22:57

hio77:

would highly suspect your mobile device doesn't support L700 / Band 28

Mikrotik 4G routers sold in NZ through proper channels don't support B28 its utter B/S

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#2488991 21-May-2020 22:58

halper86:
quickymart:
https://broadbandmap.nz/availability/-46.1594315571277/167.608028542674?address=Papatotara shows that wireless is probably your best option.

Yes i’ve decided instead of guessing how it is going to be, I am going to get wireless with an antenna from spark

-e- definitely ruling out voda for rbi since the closest 4g site is 30km away. might be time to switch my mobile to spark too.

https://gis.geek.nz/map/celltowers/location/xowoloqy

Just out of curiosity no WISP in the area?

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#2488998 21-May-2020 23:26

halper86:
quickymart:

https://broadbandmap.nz/availability/-46.1594315571277/167.608028542674?address=Papatotara shows that wireless is probably your best option.

Yes i’ve decided instead of guessing how it is going to be, I am going to get wireless with an antenna from spark

-e- definitely ruling out voda for rbi since the closest 4g site is 30km away. might be time to switch my mobile to spark too.

https://gis.geek.nz/map/celltowers/location/xowoloqy

Remember to consider the RCG towers, those will provide all 3 vendors, but only LTE on Many of them.

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#2488999 21-May-2020 23:27

nztim:
hio77:

would highly suspect your mobile device doesn't support L700 / Band 28

Mikrotik 4G routers sold in NZ through proper channels don't support B28 its utter B/S

a limited number of providers will allow you to use your own router too :)

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