A reminder about how good we've got it

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#272233 15-Jun-2020 20:50

From the land that invented the internet: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/cox-slows-internet-speeds-in-entire-neighborhoods-to-punish-any-heavy-users/

Highlights include:

35 Mbps upload on "gigabit" plan
Gigabit plan marketed as "gigablast"
USD 99 for said gigablast plan with a 1TB data cap
USD 50 surcharge for "unlimited" data cap
Warnings that 8 to 10 TB usage on said unlimited plan would result in termination for extraordinarily high usage
Lack of network capacity meant that uploads would need to be throttled for the entire neighbourhood.
Oh and by the way, prices are increasing next year. USD 175 (~NZD 270) for the same plan.

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#2505407 15-Jun-2020 21:21

1TB is pretty high and 8TB is extraordinarily high usage, but that's kinda expensive.

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#2505408 15-Jun-2020 21:25

1TB is not high at all these days.

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#2505409 15-Jun-2020 21:30

And yet people here still complain.

I used 14tb at the start of lockdown, average between 5-10tb per month average.

I just checked my parents usage also - they've used 800gb on average during lockdown but they're also Rural, and achieve 120Mbit down, 30Mbit up on their VDSL.

So going from that - I wouldn't have internet because I would be always in the warning zone.

If you want to really know how good we have it - any NBN thread has Aussies jealous over NZ's internet (and also plenty of New Zealanders rubbing it in their face).

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#2505471 15-Jun-2020 21:40

I must be unusual then - for the first month of lockdown, with my wife and I working from home and both my boys mostly watching videos during the day, we only managed to use about 320GB between the four of us. The next month was 262.

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#2505478 15-Jun-2020 21:54

Yep, I can't complain, I don't live far from the old suburban exchange so I got good ADSL speeds and then was one of the first streets to get fibre.

Now it's good speed, unlimited data and a reasonable cost.

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#2505490 15-Jun-2020 22:06

We don't know how propitious are the circumstances.

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#2505623 16-Jun-2020 10:07

So, being on unlimited anyway, is there an easy way to measure how much data is being consumed here, in an idle curiosity sort of way ?

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#2505694 16-Jun-2020 12:04

Man what happened over there that made their internet get so bad? I remember in the 2010's they were the ones who had unlimited broadband and we had the data caps now its back to front and we have the better internet.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/7315955530.png

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#2505696 16-Jun-2020 12:10

Only just now in central London am I getting fttp installed and I get no choice in provider. Lucky enough their pricing isn't bad, £25 for 150/150.

Mostly what is sold as fibre here is really just VDSL. fttp is still very uncommon.

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#2505700 16-Jun-2020 12:17

Zepanda66:

Man what happened over there that made their internet get so bad? I remember in the 2010's they were the ones who had unlimited broadband and we had the data caps now its back to front and we have the better internet.

Time and data requirements moved on and grew, but Cable operators (of which Cox are) will be plugging along with some legacy assets,

The UFB GPON is a wonderful asset NZ should be proud of , and if any thinks otherwise they can go and live in Australia for 6 months with a (non-fibre) NBN connection....

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#2505710 16-Jun-2020 13:04

Zepanda66:

Man what happened over there that made their internet get so bad? I remember in the 2010's they were the ones who had unlimited broadband and we had the data caps now its back to front and we have the better internet.

Bear in mind that this is a cable provider (think Vodafone HFC) that has only 5.2M broadband customers in a country with around 100M cable broadband connections (not to mention other connection types, i.e. fibre, ADSL, VDSL, etc.) and it's not all as bad as the above example. In my neighborhood in Charlotte, NC, AT&T now offers unlimited 1 Gig Fibre (a max 940 Mbps symmetrical connection) for US$59.99 per month (includes equipment rental and subscription to HBO Max) for the first 12 months with no contract. Thereafter it rises to US$80 per month, however, there is competition from Spectrum which offers their HFC 1 Gig service at a higher price. In the three years that I've been on AT&T Fibre, I've always called before the end of the 12 months and offered to go on contract for 12 months in order to retain my discounted rate and they have always extended the "introductory" promotional price for another 12 months.

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#2505713 16-Jun-2020 13:11

wellygary:

Australia for 6 months with a (non-fibre) NBN connection....

Have mates in Sydney and Melbourne and wow they hate their internet connections with a passion three separate households all on "NBN" consistent disconnections and massive latency spikes, slow download speeds etc. one of them on a non NBN connection and only one personal at a time can use the internet otherwise it grinds to a halt

Cousin in Brisbane and his "NBN" connection is via 4g and its unusable after 6pm, whats even worse for him is that no isp will let him switch back to adsl which he swears black and blue was 100x a better user experience but he got suckered into a "theoretical" advertised speeds on the NBN flyer.. hes actually going to move house just to get a better connection.. I feel sorry for him :(

Amazing that reliable internet has become such a necessity these days, I experienced my first internet outage in about 10 years a few weeks back and I swear I was checking to see if it was fixed every 10 minutes, was almost kinda stressful

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#2505728 16-Jun-2020 13:39

NZ we were very fortunate that the government decided to install Fibre to the premisis. If we had more HFC built outside Wellington and Christchurch then FTTP would not have happened. The only internet options we had in NZ before FTTP was built were dial up, ADSL, VDSL and Cable HFC (Wellington & Christchurch)

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#2505744 16-Jun-2020 13:59

Zepanda66:

Man what happened over there that made their internet get so bad? I remember in the 2010's they were the ones who had unlimited broadband and we had the data caps now its back to front and we have the better internet.

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