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#27842 8-Nov-2008 10:08
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whats betta adsl2+ telecom on telecom network or vodafone adsl2+  on there network or orcon adsl2+ ocron. can any one tell me thanks




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  #176795 8-Nov-2008 10:18
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Better in what respect?

There are significant differences in the offerings from all 3 providers. Both Orcon and Vodafone also offer naked circuits on their ULL gear and Telecom don't.

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  #176796 8-Nov-2008 10:21
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sbiddle: Better in what respect?

There are significant differences in the offerings from all 3 providers. Both Orcon and Vodafone also offer naked circuits on their ULL gear and Telecom don't.


Telecom retail doesn't. However you'll find that a providers such as Slingshot or WorldxChange can offer it through Telecom wholesale equipment.




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  #176848 8-Nov-2008 18:12
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When price comparing naked dsl through the telecom wholesale ones, not worth it unless smart phone services used a lot.
I.e one example of price $70 for 1 gig or $90 for 10 gigs and both plans $2 gig above.
The $70 one is $11.25 for voip line above the $70.

Telecom christchurch $37.05 for land line, complusory service must be purchased.
10 gigs boardband $49.95 fixed rate so pay no more no matter what used (get slowed down)
Total 10gig telecom cost without worrying about excess data charges $87-00 and thats with pots.

Outside wellington,christchurch think telecom one is $5 dearer.

The unbundled ones orcon, or vodafone may work out ok price wise, not sure what they're like to performance which was the original question, I'm looking at going to back to telecom once contract finished, don't have orcon unbundled in my area etc, they all have to go through telecom wholesale where I am.

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  #176851 8-Nov-2008 19:09

I moved from ADSL to ADSL2+ via wholesale and increased my speed from around 2Mbit/s down to 5Mbit/s... when I went to Red Network from Vodafone that increased to around 12Mbit/s (it's gusted up to 15 and as low as 10 but typically around 12).

I'm about 700m from the exchange. Your milage may vary but I was as impressed with this speed bump as I was when I first got broadband (1999).

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  #176853 8-Nov-2008 19:27
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One thing that you have to watch on the Orcon and Vodafone LLU offerings is that they decrease the port SNR to around 6-7. This is what helps increase the sync rate, but on a dodgy line it can also decrease stability and cause disconnections. In this case i think you should be able to ring up and have it increased slightly, paul might be able to confirm for vf.

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  #176921 9-Nov-2008 14:40
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eXDee: One thing that you have to watch on the Orcon and Vodafone LLU offerings is that they decrease the port SNR to around 6-7. This is what helps increase the sync rate, but on a dodgy line it can also decrease stability and cause disconnections. In this case i think you should be able to ring up and have it increased slightly, paul might be able to confirm for vf.

Yes, I've seen VF SNR margins around 6-7, with a boost in speed too. Not sure what difference there has been in stability though.




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I've only actually seen one person who joined the red network and reported frequent disconnections which was determined to be the low SNR on a bad line. Of course this is of the people who actually posted on the forum, but its unlikely there are many people getting the issue.

 
 
 
 


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  #177209 10-Nov-2008 20:26
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The answer probably depends very heavily on where you live.

If you live close to an exchange, then it'll be down to which ISP is offering the best national/international bandwidth.

If you are in a cabinetised area then you are more likely to be better on a Telecom Wholesale'd service as I don't believe most of the smaller ISPs are putting their equipment into the cabinets yet ... that said I'm not sure Chorus offers sub-loop unbundling yet.  Even when they do, there is the question of whether the smaller ISPs are going to have enough scale to make an investment in a cabinet based DSLAM economic ...





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  #177433 11-Nov-2008 21:58
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cws82us: whats betta adsl2+ telecom on telecom network or vodafone adsl2+  on there network or orcon adsl2+ ocron. can any one tell me thanks

Probably not as there is no simple answer.  I'm on Orcon and it's great except international bandwidth can be crap in the evenings.  But I work from home and it's great during work hours.

You may have to try them all yourself.  Start with Orcon, as there's no disconnection fee.




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