Fibre install IS this how its done now?

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#284554 29-Apr-2021 21:26

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I just visited my daughter who has just had fibre installed,

When we had ours done a long time ago done the fibre from the street to house ETP was all enclosed in conduit

Her one just has conduit from the street along the ground and then along fence (No conduit)

then to ETP no conduit

Should we be concerned or is this this the way its done now??? I had a quick look in the chorus website but couldn't find anything re "std" etc re conduit

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#2699866 29-Apr-2021 21:43

Here you go - from the chorus website. Seems like if you leave it to them, pretty much anything goes.

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#2699868 29-Apr-2021 21:47

the black "cable" you are looking at is microduct it is the conduit. they will do it the quickest and easiest way possible even if that includes tacking it to a fence.

I laid my own conduit and everything for my install so all they had to do was feed it though, that way i got what i wanted and the chorus guy was happy as it was super easy for him

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#2699869 29-Apr-2021 21:48

Yep, that's how ours was done in the last place we were in. It's a pretty hardy protective sheath and almost certainly UV stabilised, so while you wouldn't want to run your lawnmower over it, it's not too much of a concern I would have thought. Conduit would have been nice, I agree, but it could easily double the cost of materials for little benefit.

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#2699934 30-Apr-2021 06:55

Mine uses the old copper conduit - Neighbours is tacked along our shared rotting fence will be an interesting conversation when it comes time to replace the fence

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#2700595 2-May-2021 07:58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svIyRwiG0v4

Thick walled microduct vs weed eater

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#2700628 2-May-2021 09:51

The fibre cable they used for our install is just bare cable with no microduct.
It is however really strong as it’s got Kevlar in it.
It’s an aerial install and we had some strong wind a few weeks ago and a branch broke off a pine tree and got caught on the fibre by a pine cone and was just hanging there! No damage to the cable and this wasn’t a small branch either!

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#2700631 2-May-2021 10:04

traderstu:

Here you go - from the chorus website. Seems like if you leave it to them, pretty much anything goes.

Yep pretty much that's a classic @Chorus install, I think they like the term " Can't see it from my house"

So much for building a network that will last!

This wasn't her install was it? ONT Install

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#2700656 2-May-2021 10:56

raytaylor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svIyRwiG0v4

Thick walled microduct vs weed eater

Are they using a different product now? Had one just last week where a weedeater destroyed the microduct without apparently much effort

As for the quickest dirtiest way, it's getting a bit old seeing the messy installs now. I know everyone harps on about cost but the government IS paying chorus and other networks to do the job

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#2700659 2-May-2021 11:09

raytaylor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svIyRwiG0v4

Thick walled microduct vs weed eater

Thats is a pretty cool demo

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#2700663 2-May-2021 11:23

raytaylor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svIyRwiG0v4

Thick walled microduct vs weed eater

I think that's also not the armoured black stuff; it's just the thin LSZH used inside a building for the apartment-block installs.

Obviously different weedeater blades will have different effects; use the swinging-bar things or a proper blade and it will go through close to anything, including PVC conduit after a few years of sun and heat.

Perhaps we should be demanding stainless steel pipe:P

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#2700665 2-May-2021 11:52

Thanks all for the feedback, I guess time will tell re the "lastability"

just another pic of the wiring routing, where the pane of glass is is actually the Front door!!!!

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#2700666 2-May-2021 11:55

That flexible conduit is like $10 per metre for the UV rated stuff from an electrical wholesaler.
The non-UV rated stuff is much cheaper so I'd keep an eye on it.

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#2700668 2-May-2021 12:06

SomeoneSomewhere:

I think that's also not the armoured black stuff; it's just the thin LSZH used inside a building for the apartment-block installs.

We used this in some small subdivisions. Its thick-walled 7/3mm in white.
I think chorus uses slightly thinner 5/3 from memory however theirs has a black sheath with a locating wire which brings it up to the same 7mm thickness.

It will stand up to most weed eaters using standard nylon line.

Something that does annoy me: People complaining about a free install where the condition is chorus will use the cheapest and easiest method possible.
Householders that want a more visually pleasant installation are more than welcome to pre-dig a trench for the chorus tech to lay the microduct in to if they want it done fancy. There are even companies around the country that offer this as a service.

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#2700672 2-May-2021 12:23

Ah but people have to pay for it Ray and that's usually what puts their nose out of joint. Even if their existing connection is from the pole, they expect fibre to be all underground and totally free of any cost to them.

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#2700673 2-May-2021 12:26

quickymart:

Ah but people have to pay for it Ray and that's usually what puts their nose out of joint. Even if their existing connection is from the pole, they expect fibre to be all underground and totally free of any cost to them.

Also if it's a chorus underground job it's usually only 50-100mm underground as this is their new standard and they claim that this ruggedized microduct is apparently as tough as nails, so a spade will definitely do some damage.

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