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Topic # 29659 14-Jan-2009 12:58
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Hey folks,
Due to recent developments i have decided to look into USENET.

Can someone give me a general how to guide, with recommendations for clients, programs to use and is usenet better than Rapidshare in terms of bang for buck, and ease of finding materials.

Much appreciated.

Ross




 


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  Reply # 189516 14-Jan-2009 13:36
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I never really got into the P2P thing. I have always preferred UseNet.

I am on a service called News Hosting which costs me about US100 per year for about 60GB p/month. There are a number of other services including Giganews, etc.

Generally everything you want will be under the alt.binaries groups. There are loads of them. In terms of tools:

Grabit is handy. It downloads all the headers and you can browse all the titles and simply select what you want to download. It also supports multiple threads. I think I have up to 8 running at once and on a good day I get about 300KB p/s

Quickpar is a volume repair tool. Most binaries are packaged with .par files. This allows damaged files to be rebuilt. For example one file might be corrupted but if you download the .par files the corrupted file can be repaired

NZB-O-Matic is good for downloading all the files associated with a single package. Through your browser on Newhosting you can select the files you want to download and then create .nzb file. Load the .nzb file into NZB-O-Matic and all the files associated with the .nzb will be downloaded.




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  Reply # 189532 14-Jan-2009 14:42
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So essentially all i need to do is sign up with a Usenet provider and enter my login details on any given client and im off?


This grabit is a client i use, or it will import all the headers into my client?


In terms of a provider im looking to use only around 10GB per month i wont be using it hardcore really.  Know of any free ones for this amount of data?

Thanks for the help.







 


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  Reply # 189534 14-Jan-2009 14:47
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I use teranews.com..  As for a client Ive always and prob always will use Forte Agent..  There wont be any free ones worth a damn for 10gb/mo..  as for "finding" stuff, well you can always request but someones got to upload it.. 



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  Reply # 189566 14-Jan-2009 15:44
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yes i realise it has to be uploaded, and that they tend to only get hosted for a certain period.

But im really refering to browsing the uploaded items? how easy is this to do?




 


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  Reply # 189577 14-Jan-2009 16:29
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So wait, you want to pay to download things?

Wow. That's worse than just stealing things for free.

Just use BitTorrent and a decent private tracker.




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  Reply # 189578 14-Jan-2009 16:40
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Try http://www.giganews.com/.  They have a good starter package and if it's any good upgrade it.  I think that they also have a free trial as well.  I'm going to give them ago when I get back to NZ..




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  Reply # 189583 14-Jan-2009 17:03
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Well i already pay to download things.  Its my monthly ISP bill. I just want to take full advantage of the speeds available to me.

It just appeals to me even more that this will be in a way which is as secure as possible, and free from any form of shaping.
Im pretty sure most of the good providers offer encryption?

With torrents, my understanding is that i could download plugins that blacklist known pirates, hackers, RIAA etc IPs, but exactly how up to date is this???




 


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  Reply # 189586 14-Jan-2009 17:11
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rossmnz: With torrents, my understanding is that i could download plugins that blacklist known pirates, hackers, RIAA etc IPs, but exactly how up to date is this???


Pubilc trackers vs Private trackers. If you use a good private tracker the chance of having untrustworthy peers on the torrent is slim to none.

Most torrent clients encrypt data, and my ISP doesn't shape any traffic so there's no benefit for me in Usenet.




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  Reply # 189587 14-Jan-2009 17:18
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I'd vote for easynews. Great searching, rollover gigs, very fast download speeds - I get 1.6MB/S, the fastest my connection allows and have had no issues with them.It's just a pitty it's charged in US dollars, and our exchange rate has hammered that a bit.

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  Reply # 189589 14-Jan-2009 17:33
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Look at this one too www.usenext.com




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  Reply # 189594 14-Jan-2009 17:54
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Anarkist:
rossmnz: With torrents, my understanding is that i could download plugins that blacklist known pirates, hackers, RIAA etc IPs, but exactly how up to date is this???


Pubilc trackers vs Private trackers. If you use a good private tracker the chance of having untrustworthy peers on the torrent is slim to none.

Most torrent clients encrypt data, and my ISP doesn't shape any traffic so there's no benefit for me in Usenet.


So a couple of questions arise out of this.

1.Do you have a good private tracker you recommend, in combination with which torrent client? I want to avoid all untrustworthy IPs obviously.

2.Which ISP do you use that does not shape traffic?

Cheers,

Ross



P.S-im still intrigued by usenet, but just thought id ask




 


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  Reply # 189599 14-Jan-2009 18:22
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1. I wouldn't know, as I don't use them. Innocent
2. Telecom/Xtra




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  Reply # 189688 15-Jan-2009 08:51
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With UseNeXt I can max out a 7.5 mbps adsl line, and on the free(unlimited) mode I get 200~450kbps

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  Reply # 189702 15-Jan-2009 09:25
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rossmnz: yes i realise it has to be uploaded, and that they tend to only get hosted for a certain period.

But im really refering to browsing the uploaded items? how easy is this to do?


I get 250 days retention on Newshosting. It used to be only 40 days. The back catalogue is huge. The advantage over P2P is you are not relying on seeds/peers and you do not have to share (upload). I can get more bang for my buck by not blowing my cap having to upload.

Very easy to search/browse uploaded items.




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  Reply # 189703 15-Jan-2009 09:26
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Look here http://www.slyck.com/Newsgroups_Guide .  I used giganews, newzbin, and hellanzb to download stuff.  I pay US$ 2.99 for 3G.  Giganews also has a free 10G offer for 14 days.

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