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andrew027

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#299270 25-Aug-2022 10:05
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I had been living away from my house for an extended period but moved back in a couple of months ago. The house is currently on VDSL and as all my TV is now streamed the copper connection just isn't cutting it - lots of pauses, buffering, and the TVNZ+ app (the worst of the bunch) will occasionally drop out altogether. Add to this I have a daughter at home who lives her life online (constantly gaming and streaming) and my wife and I both work from home a couple of days a week and need a reliable connection. I feel fibre is now essential. So I'm after a bit of advice as to the best way to do this.

 

The first challenge will be getting the fibre to the house. Chorus came out a couple of years ago and at the time it was determined they couldn't blow the fibre up the same channel currently used for the copper. This means somehow getting across a few metres of textured concrete driveway that I don't want destroyed, but I do have a plan that will get me to within about half a metre of the existing copper "ETP", so I need to get that done ASAP.

 

Next, I do have a comm.s cabinet ("home distributor") in my garage. This has RJ45 sockets patched to half a dozen outlets around the house. I guess this would be the logical place to put the ONT, however due to the location of the garage (at one end of the house, on a lower floor to the living spaces) and because the cabinet has a metal door, this would be a terrible location for the wifi router. 

 

Finally, I'm prepared to connect the TV via wifi (as it is now) but my preference would be to have the TV cabled, if there's a way to do that. But where the TV is located is also not the best place to put the wifi router.

 

My initial thought was that I'd put the ONT in the cabinet in the garage, put the router in the best location in the house (roughly the centre of the top floor), and connect the two using the patched CAT line from the cabinet. But I can't see that this would allow me to connect the TV. There's another RJ45 outlet where the TV is that runs back to the cabinet, that only takes me to the ONT. I don't think I can plug a "device" into the ONT - the TV needs to be plugged into the modem, right? 

 

Regarding the solution, is the only way to achieve this to have separate "modem" and "router" devices, and put the modem in the cabinet with the ONT, and have the router in the best location for wifi? The router would be connected to the modem via one of the patched lines, and there would be other patched lines running back to the modem for the TV and the home office (so we'd also have the option to avoid wifi when working from home, if we wanted to).

Or is there another solution I'm missing?

 

Or do I just suck it up and have a single modem/router connected to the ONT and do everything via wifi (as we do now, but better because it's fibre)?


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  #2959191 25-Aug-2022 10:15
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ONT is the modem.

 

Router stays in garage cabinet with wifi off - better still bin it and buy a Mikrotik CCR2004-16G-2S+.

 

Install access points throughout house for wifi. Ubiquiti Unifi, Aruba, Mikrotik cAP.

 

All done.





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  #2959314 25-Aug-2022 14:07
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Is your copper direct bury or in a pipe - dont let those chorus techs say "they cant do it"

 

I risked losing my copper wire using it as a draw cable for the fibre (and it worked) - but have a plan b for install otherwise you may be left with nothing

 

 





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  #2959345 25-Aug-2022 15:19
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Spyware:

 

ONT is the modem.

 

 

Huh?




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  #2959346 25-Aug-2022 15:19
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At our place Chorus wouldn't use the existing cable as a pull through but had a fibreglass snake they pushed through instead. I had laid conduit from the street fibre to the copper conduit and from the ETP location to the copper conduit. They just cut the old conduit and wrapped the junctions in plastic as the fibre could have been direct buried anyway.

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  #2959531 25-Aug-2022 20:02
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quickymart:

 

Spyware:

 

ONT is the modem.

 

 

Huh?

 

 

it acts as the modem, but is not called that these days


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  #2959582 25-Aug-2022 20:22
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Modem, Modulator - Demodulator, is device that resolves a signal to-from a carrier of some sort. In this case optical signals are resolved to electrical.

In essence it's the equivalent of a pure modem, delivering ethernet WAN to and from your router

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  #2959584 25-Aug-2022 20:32
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Re the OPs issue, is the ideal location to place the wireless router serviced by two ethernet runs to the Garage cabinet, if so run the wan from the ont via one and return the Lan via the other two a switch in the garage cabinet to distribute as desired.

Alternatively, use a seperate router wireless AP layout with the router in the garage cabinet and wireless Access points out in the house as appropriate.

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  #2960106 27-Aug-2022 09:40
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As more properties are being switched over to fibre, I wish the ISP's would start to refer to the "modem" as the "router", as that's more akin to its role now that the modem functionality isn't even being used.

 

Yes, yes, it's also a wifi access point and Ethernet switch etc, but that's a debate for another day.


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  #2960110 27-Aug-2022 10:02
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You may know this already, but just in case:

Fibre -> ONT -> ISP "Router/WiFi" box.

In my house, I have ONT and ISP boxes both in garage. The ISP Router commonly has 4 RJ45/ethernet outputs; so you could connect the TV to one via your existing wiring, AND a separate WiFi access point to another. This is what I have.

OR you could have the ONT in the garage, and put the ISP box where you want for good wifi, connect them via the house wiring, and also [if you can], connect the TV to the ISP box via internal cabling.


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