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Topic # 30382 6-Feb-2009 07:20
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Hey guys i am thinking of doing a protest. and i need your guys to post here if you guys willing to protest about this

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  Reply # 194436 6-Feb-2009 10:29
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Everyone just needs to accuse government IPS, teleco officials (even through they are against it), NZ music industry, and MPs of downloading content illegally.

Until they come after you that is..

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  Reply # 194437 6-Feb-2009 10:31
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How about posting some sort of idea of when and where? Gore would not be a good place to protest about it.

Generally you would want to protest on Queen St in Auckland, or Parliament in Wellington. But you would be best to get the day of the protest to happen when the government are specifially discuss section92 on that day.

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Reply # 194440 6-Feb-2009 10:45
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Gore would not be a good place to protest about it..

On the contrary... Gore is the place where everything great starts

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  Reply # 194484 6-Feb-2009 15:55
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Yes I want them to destroy section 92a. Then I want them to replace it with a new section 92a that says "ISPS other telecomunciations providers can not be held responsible for what their customers download over their internet.".

Because a gun manufacturer is not legally reliable for who their guns kill. The government isn't responsable if someone is traficking drugs over their roads. Microsoft is not responsible if someone hacks someone using windows as their operating system. Infact no one is really responsable for what people do with their networks, products or services. So why is a teleco.

The excuse that "the telecos are assisting copyright infringement over their networks by allowing them to do so. And therefore they are legally liable." is nonsense. Using that logic we could say that "people who make guns are legally responsible and liable for how that gun is used. If it is used to kill someone then the gun company goes to jail. It is the gun companys problem." but we no that it is not true, that gun companys are not to blame for what their guns do.

Making this section law is basicly making the isps responsible. Now that is wrong because no one else is responsible for what it's users do. This law is unfair and discriminates against one sector. This law would mean that "it is one law for isps and another for everyone else" which is wrong as we are supposed to live in a democracy with fair and balanced legal system/laws.

Besides the law stops nothing as people just reconect to their same isp.

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  Reply # 194486 6-Feb-2009 16:21
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cokemaster: Gore is the place where everything great starts

and nothing good ends Tongue out

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  Reply # 194633 7-Feb-2009 13:11
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I am quite happy to drive a carload of people from Napier amd meet up with others in wellington and help take part.

Could try inviting Michael Morrah from TV3 - he seemed quite up with technology when i got interviewed about the txt hacking stuff.

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  Reply # 194860 9-Feb-2009 10:42
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I wouldn't mind helping out if this takes place in Auckland!

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  Reply # 194865 9-Feb-2009 11:09
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If in Auckland I'm in

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  Reply # 194870 9-Feb-2009 11:30
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Landmark case going on in Aussie at the moment:

Apparently the movie industry thinks that ISPs are actually responsible for what people download over their networks.  This is how retarded they are.  The ISP concerned opened with the statement that this case was "like suing the electricity company for things people do with their electricity". LOL

Section 92A co-operation between ISPs and the RIANZ/RIAA seems to be on the brink of falling over due to the fact that the ISPs seem to be standing up for themselves(and the rest of the free world?).
See here.


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