Hyperfibre 2023 - Glacial ISP Uptake

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#303921 20-Mar-2023 13:44

I was on MyRepublic but switched to Spark since it was a staff benefit (losing Hyperfibre in the process). I'm about to leave my current employer so Hyperfibre is on the cards again. I have 10GbE at home in my lab, and generally enjoyed 2000/2000. I'm going to be hosting a couple of project websites and we are a geeked out household with scores of wired and wireless devices, so tend to benefit from it. Super suprised that after all this time the main ISPs still don't have Hyperfibre. It's been years!

As far as I'm aware the only options are MyRepublic and Orcon. I saw in the other thread Voyager is jumping on board. Any news on that one?

Final question for extra points... the Nokia ONT; does it have a backup battery? I recall the installer saying that's why they are big and heavy. Something to do with VOIP and needing to be able to make emergency calls. But everytime I unplug my ONT the internet seems to cycle.

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#3052347 20-Mar-2023 13:53

A few "non-large" ISPs (like us) do Hyperfibre as well. We even do BGP for a couple of our homelab customers (mostly just for fun)

You can go here and select Hyperfibre to get a full list

No battery backup (built in), but I believe it has the option for one to be added, though I don't think it's actually in use in NZ...

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#3052352 20-Mar-2023 14:03

I don't blame ISPs for not wanting to have a product in their suite that would only be taken up by a handful of consumers.

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#3052354 20-Mar-2023 14:04

Check out Quic Broadband.

They do a 2Gb Hyperfibre plan now.

Use my referral link if you like and the promo code to get the $29 setup fee for free.

https://account.quic.nz/refer/243257

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#3052356 20-Mar-2023 14:08

What other thread has voyager jumping on?

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#3052360 20-Mar-2023 14:15

Uptake has been slow because it is sorta a niche here in NZ given Gigabit Broadband is actually crazy good both for price and performance. I'd love a little more upstream, but otherwise for me as a power user Gigabit is totally fine. We're years ahead of some other countries with our broadband offerings.

I'd suggest checking out Quic too. I'm not with them but just from what others have said about them (and also talking to some of their staff members) they have a solid network and are more geared towards those who do have home labs. However just note they're only PPPoE currently (but may allow IPoE soon).

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#3052361 20-Mar-2023 14:22

richms:

What other thread has voyager jumping on?

I'm sure I've read it on here too, but Hyperfibre was "in the near future" in the e-mail sent out to customers last year advising them of the price increase.

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#3052364 20-Mar-2023 14:26

richms:

What other thread has voyager jumping on?

This one

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#3052375 20-Mar-2023 14:45

Nothing happened on that thread and no commitment to it happening.

I will have to upgrade a hell of a lot of stuff to use it, and as I only ran OM3 multimode to use my gigabit SFP's I may have to look at replacing that with some singlemode since thats what all the faster stuff seems to need.

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#3052386 20-Mar-2023 15:22

richms:

I will have to upgrade a hell of a lot of stuff to use it, and as I only ran OM3 multimode to use my gigabit SFP's I may have to look at replacing that with some singlemode since thats what all the faster stuff seems to need.

OM3 will do 10gb. SFP+ module prices are comparable to single mode at that speed.

The fibre is probably the least expensive part of any run, so a switch to single mode would be my preference if practicable.

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#3052410 20-Mar-2023 16:25

I saw this from craft computing and the prices of things. This is how I will be going https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO9Fw86OM0o&t=1568s

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#3052925 21-Mar-2023 15:52

I wouldn't bother hosting anything at home or on hyperfibre. Just put it on a VM or something in a datacentre somewhere, it will be so much more reliable than anything you can run at home. And it costs next to nothing. Much cheaper than paying for hyperfibre.

Unless you are going to flatline your connection then hyperfibre is basically a great waste of money.

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#3052932 21-Mar-2023 16:23

I dream for symmetrical 1gbps

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#3053000 21-Mar-2023 17:34

Hyerfibre - while a good idea - would be wasted at my place. 4 people here each with their own devices and 300/100 is more than sufficient for our needs. Hell, even a gigabit plan would be overkill.

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#3054889 26-Mar-2023 13:34

I agree above the problem is there are few businesses that need over 1gb connections. Unless you are mirroring SAN/iSCSI/NFS storage over the internet then even large offices with hundreds of people connected will struggle to consume more than 200mbit unless they are all simultaneously on video conferences. For the home user it's even more of a nonsense.

International TCP latency and the fact you can't change the speed of light from where the majority of your offshore content is coming from then it serves no purpose other than showing off your speedtest for the 5 seconds it took to run it.

It's all about compensating for a sense of inadequacy in other areas of your life.

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#3054891 26-Mar-2023 13:42

That argument sucks. People don't buy or use a thing that you wouldn't simply because they must have some implied deficiency in their life. You started that comment so well by sticking to the facts of your argument then lost me at the end.

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