2nd Generation XGS (Hyperfibre) ONT launching Sept 2023

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#304299 21-Apr-2023 18:18

I haven't seen it mentioned yet.

PSA for anyone thinking about Hyperfibre. Might be worth holding off until at least Sept when the new XGSPON ONT officially releases. RGW mode is gone, as is in-built wifi. It's half the size of the 1st gen ONT, and wall mountable.

https://sp.chorus.co.nz/inflight-projects/2ndgenxgs-ont

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#3066718 21-Apr-2023 18:36

Yup I decided to wait until this unit is released before switching to Hyperfibre.

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#3066721 21-Apr-2023 18:48

Likewise

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#3066802 21-Apr-2023 22:54

I wonder what's the difference in the ram and the cpu on both..

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#3066803 21-Apr-2023 23:18

I could be tempted here...

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#3066804 21-Apr-2023 23:20

aj6828: I wonder what's the difference in the ram and the cpu on both..

Minimal, and not important. In very simplistic terms an ONT is just a managed media converter. While the public spec's don't go into that detail, it would act much like any other network device. A CPU would handle the control plane such as config, status monitoring, statistics collection, etc. Memory would hold the running config and firmware loaded from an EEPROM or other non-volate memory.

All of the really hard work converting the optical signals would be handled through one or more ASICs or FPGAs. A small amount of memory may be used for buffering.

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#3066806 21-Apr-2023 23:47

FailedWOF:
aj6828: I wonder what's the difference in the ram and the cpu on both..

Minimal, and not important. In very simplistic terms an ONT is just a managed media converter. While the public spec's don't go into that detail, it would act much like any other network device. A CPU would handle the control plane such as config, status monitoring, statistics collection, etc. Memory would hold the running config and firmware loaded from an EEPROM or other non-volate memory.

All of the really hard work converting the optical signals would be handled through one or more ASICs or FPGAs. A small amount of memory may be used for buffering.

I think the old ont is better than the new one seems like chorus is cutting there overheads.. also makes sense to to this no one wants to use the crappy wifi on the ont and wifi 7 is few months away..

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#3066811 22-Apr-2023 00:22

What router is the RSP going to provide to route 4 gigabit? currently those providing hyper fibre let the ONT do this job

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#3066814 22-Apr-2023 00:55

nztim: What router is the RSP going to provide to route 4 gigabit? currently those providing hyper fibre let the ONT do this job

No idea - each RSP would need to determine a suitable CPE as they do today with GPON. I suspect that will be part of the testing and readiness checks over the next few months. Perhaps some may not provide an option at all - the demographic most likely to go with Hyperfibre may also be more likely to want to roll their own?

Overall, Chorus is withdrawing RGW services completely. Consultations with RSPs closed at the end of Feb. Stop sell will be 31 October 2023, and service withdrawn 31 October 2024 for the RGW ONT function and RGW Mode for Hyperfibre. So any RSP using either of those will need to work with customers on a solution over the next 16 months anyway (although uptake was low on the GPON side and there are plenty of viable options there).

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#3066815 22-Apr-2023 01:16

aj6828:

I think the old ont is better than the new one seems like chorus is cutting there overheads.

Pretty much. From the consultation outcome:

Unfortunately take up of the product is at levels where we can no longer justify the cost of supporting the RMP platform that RGW ONT relies on once we withdraw RGW mode from Hyperfibre.

The commercial option to continue offering RGW mode would be significantly more expensive than purchasing retail CPE

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also makes sense to to this no one wants to use the crappy wifi on the ont and wifi 7 is few months away..

Again, one of the reasons for withdrawing RGW:

...with the upcoming 2nd Gen HF ONT not supporting Wi-Fi this is not something we are able to offer. In addition, we believe that a separate CPE supporting newer technology (such as Wi-Fi 6 or 2.5G LAN ports) will give a much better End User experience

What wasn't mentioned is that it also blurs the lines between Chorus as a LFC and the RSP's.

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#3067425 23-Apr-2023 19:55

FailedWOF:
nztim: What router is the RSP going to provide to route 4 gigabit? currently those providing hyper fibre let the ONT do this job
Perhaps some may not provide an option at all - the demographic most likely to go with Hyperfibre may also be more likely to want to roll their own?

This is a good idea, routers that push that speed are not consumer grade devices

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#3118001 19-Aug-2023 17:26

Release delayed. Soft launch is now in November, with full GA Q1 2024 (when current ONT stocks are expected to be depleted).

https://sp.chorus.co.nz/product-update/2nd-gen-hyperfibre-ont-update

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#3118020 19-Aug-2023 19:53

Right now im waiting 24 Working days just to get a Hyper Fibre ONT put in.

I wanted the newer gen but gave up waiting, I wish chorus just let the end user decide if they wanted to upgrade the ONT them self or not.

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#3118024 19-Aug-2023 20:52

"Upgrade the ONT themself"? You mean the end user install it themselves? It's not a simple plug-and-play process.

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#3118026 19-Aug-2023 20:58

They offer the service
I don’t think it’s as hard as you think

https://www.quic.nz/chorus-hyperfibre-ont-self-upgrade-trial/

Quic offers it, just a shame you can’t apply with chorus themself if you go with another provider.

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#3118035 19-Aug-2023 22:46

That's a trial with one RSP, it's not a commercially offered service (yet).

The problem (from my experience) with this sort of thing is often the customer mucks something up, necessitating a tech visit anyway.

While it will be interesting to see what happens with their trial, I'm doubtful this will become a widespread thing - too many possibilities for the end user to break something. However, I could be proven wrong.

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