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Hanku

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#306271 9-Jul-2023 22:33
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Hello,

 

I am reaching out to gather insights about managing high-volume internet connectivity in a rural setting using Starlink. Currently, our household is subscribed to Starlink's 1TB priority plan. This subscription is responsible for handling all our internet traffic, from everyday activities such as YouTube, Netflix, and gaming, which are primarily utilized by my children and do not necessarily require prioritized, costly data.

 

For my professional needs, I require a dependable and high-quality internet connection for numerous online meetings and data transfers. I'm contemplating setting up sync processes to create local copies of my work files, initially around 15-20 TB, with an expected increment of at least 2-3 TB per month moving forward. Unfortunately, Starlink does not provide data classification features, which could help differentiate between high and low-priority internet traffic.

 

In addition to the Starlink options, I am also considering a potentially 4G or, if I'm fortunate enough, a 5G connection using a proper outdoor modem such as ZyXel NR7101 or NR7102 or similar. However, we are outside the 5G and mostly even 4G coverage so this is just pure luck if it works.

 

Considering the above, I find myself torn between a few potential solutions:

 

     

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    Maintain the current Starlink priority plan and add a normal Starlink subscription. This would involve installing two dishes and managing two distinct connections.

     

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    Downgrade to a single normal Starlink subscription and channel all the traffic through this.

     

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    Test and potentially implement a 4G / 5G solution using a proper outdoor modem.

     

 

At present, I'm inclined towards the second option if the priority subscription does not offer any significant advantages. Therefore, I would appreciate hearing from anyone with experiences or insights concerning the comparative benefits of the priority and normal Starlink subscriptions.

 

Thank you in advance for your time and your valuable input. I look forward to hearing your experiences and advice.


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  #3101766 9-Jul-2023 22:40
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I'd say go for option 2.

 

The Starlink 1TB limit is a soft limit and speed restrictions will only apply for regions that are "waitlist" in status (check this map for reference).





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  #3102049 10-Jul-2023 11:43
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In our experience (proper rural) the 4G/5G data route was a waste time, even with the right gear it is wildly inconsistent. Valuable for phone/sms but now with Call/SMS over WiFi... we dropped it.

 

 

 

Ignoring the initial sync-up of your data set (which will be a feat on its own), your ongoing numbers seem to be ~150GB per working day (based on 3TB per month you mentioned). That means you will need to consistently have uploads of ~30Mbps between 7pm>7am. Impossible for our normal Starlink plan, no idea what the Priority or Business plans can offer. Obviously this is not taking into account any outage or whatever the blinky laser in the sky is doing while you sleep.

 

So, ignoring your professional needs 😅, all you really need is a good router setup (think VyOS or similar) in which you can have multiple networks and apply different priorities/bandwidth or completely different WAN port.

 

 

 

I do have some comments and questions for you:

 

     

  1. No idea what your line of business is but:

     

       

    1. Could you reduce the size of the updates? Smaller blobs, compression, etc...
    2. Could you use a remote machine instead?

     

  2. Any WISP in the area?

     

       

    1. They usually are friendly small businesses that may have available capacity (midnight-7am).
    2. In our case WISP complemented our network as they can be consistent and have better latency/jittter than Starlink. We split traffic by networks depending on their use (IoT, guests, family, business) and, for some of them, fail-over between providers.

     

  3. FYI you may be eligible for funding. >https://www.crowninfrastructure.govt.nz/rural/rus/

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  #3102063 10-Jul-2023 12:24
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I have done serveral setups with Starlink and 4G / xDSL failover. So you could go down in Starlink plan and get a 4G as failover. Draytek LTE routers will do this well, and there are a few other options out there. You will need a good antenna setup for decent 4G reliablity.

 

 





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  #3102746 11-Jul-2023 14:21
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Are you happy to share what line of work you are in? Those data transfer requirements (in the TB) aren't ideal for rural data connectivity! Maybe I'm out of touch but a 20TB intial data dump seems large as well - where are you storing this - is this international traffic or NZ based?

 

We have set teams up before using Virtual Desktops and had great feedback and results. However, you do need reliable low bandwidth (but decent low latency) connection. 


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  #3103445 12-Jul-2023 20:44
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Thank you for all the replies 🤩

 

I got buried into work and just got back to see this many replies.

 

To clarify some points raised, I work remotely and my primary bandwidth-consuming activities revolve around running blockchain nodes and IPFS server. Several Ethereum L2s and new chains with high transaction volumes are what I need to handle locally at times. Even without intending to build a full-fledged data center at home, these add up quickly in data volume.

 

In terms of equipment, I've ordered a Ubiquiti Dream Machine SE to get several wan connections bundled together. Regarding mobile connectivity, I've looked into local base stations. With a high-gain modem, 4G might be possible, but 5G still seems a bit out of reach - it's a full 2km away. I'm not extremely rural, our place is 2km away from 5G and fiber connections (in Hamilton), but this is just enough not to give any good solutions either.

I'm going to try with Starlink mainly, but I'll at least try with some proper 4G / 5G outdoor device to see how well it works to complement this + as a backup.


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