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#312196 25-Mar-2024 17:29

I'm curious as to whether anyone uses powerline kit to connect their ONT to their RSP supplied (or your own) router if you want your router elsewhere in the house from the ONT and don't have an option to use a real ethernet conenction.

Just curious as to experiences in terms of reliability and speed - although this is an "up to 2000Mbps" kit, I think we all know none of these achieve anything like the headline speed once plugged in.

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#3210739 25-Mar-2024 19:12

Investigate the cost of getting the ONT moved to a more sensible location?

Might find it's not much more than poor workaround options

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#3210822 25-Mar-2024 21:03

I've used that model of powerline gear (AV2000 spec) for standard networking within a house and between outbuildings. It works but I've never managed to get more than 300Mbps network transfers over it (that was in the same room), while it claims it's connection speed is ~1400mbps. At least in my experience you may get 20% of the rated connection speed.

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#3210924 26-Mar-2024 07:54

I used two different sets myself to get internet access in a garage. They worked OK. Speed was far from fantastic, and every other month I would have to power cycle them when they stopped talking to each other. They do work, but are a connection type of last resort IMHO.

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#3210925 26-Mar-2024 08:01

mentalinc:

Investigate the cost of getting the ONT moved to a more sensible location?

Might find it's not much more than poor workaround options

I have my ONT connected to my RSP supplied router by a 1m Cat6 cable. I am interested to know what experience people have if they have used the powerline solution to move the modem away from the ONT where there's no eth solution in place.

Cheers -N

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#3210937 26-Mar-2024 09:13

Talkiet:

I have my ONT connected to my RSP supplied router by a 1m Cat6 cable. I am interested to know what experience people have if they have used the powerline solution to move the modem away from the ONT where there's no eth solution in place.

Cheers -N

Any Particular reason you want the Power line link upstream of the router,??,

Surely have the powerlink running from the Router would achieve the same effect, - you can always stick a cheap gigabit switch at the far end if you need more connections

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#3210938 26-Mar-2024 09:16

wellygary:

Talkiet:

I have my ONT connected to my RSP supplied router by a 1m Cat6 cable. I am interested to know what experience people have if they have used the powerline solution to move the modem away from the ONT where there's no eth solution in place.

Cheers -N

Any Particular reason you want the Power line link upstream of the router,??,

Surely have the powerlink running from the Router would achieve the same effect, - you can always stick a cheap gigabit switch at the far end if you need more connections

I have my ONT connected to my RSP supplied router by a 1m Cat6 cable. I have no intention of changing this and I would never use a powerline adaptor myself for this purpose. I am interested from an academic point of view about the experience of anyone that has done this, with no intention of ever moving to this setup myself.

Cheers - N

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#3210957 26-Mar-2024 09:59

I've used TP-Link powerline connections for years. They work well in my standalone house that has questionable wiring. The flexibility is the main advantage; when fibre arrived, the router moved from one side of the house to the other, reconfiguration took 30 s.

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#3210969 26-Mar-2024 10:50

jlittle: I've used TP-Link powerline connections for years. They work well in my standalone house that has questionable wiring. The flexibility is the main advantage; when fibre arrived, the router moved from one side of the house to the other, reconfiguration took 30 s.

I used to have one installed permanently behind the rack and would plug them in around the house when I needed temporary connectivity and to connect a Raspberry Pi in the garage which provided IO for automation.

This solution worked well for years, but I started having connectivity problems and swapping out units didn't resolve the issue. I suspect there is a noise source which is preventing them working correctly, although switching off any recently added hardware didn't resolve the problem. The Raspberry Pi now has a wired connection so I didn't investigate further.

I personally wouldn't consider this a robust enough solution for my main Internet connection.

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#3211068 26-Mar-2024 11:39

They dont pass vlans. That should end discussion right there.

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#3212073 29-Mar-2024 14:22

As long as your connection is not VLAN10 enabled then it will work.

Speeds generally max out around 200-300mbits.

The reported sync speed of the powerline link will typically include 50% overhead for the error correction stuff that is added to the data packets - much like Wifi only tops out about 50-60% of the reported sync speed.

So if you buy a pair of the old 500mbit standard powerline kits, your max real throughput is about 200-250mbits.

Powerline units seem to shut down after power cuts, surges, instability or if the dog down the road pees on the wrong tree. Its normal to have to power cycle them every couple of weeks to get them to link up to each other again.

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#3212075 29-Mar-2024 14:28

richms:

They dont pass vlans. That should end discussion right there.

That's a really interesting snippet I was unaware of! None of them? Or the one that I randomly took a pic of?

I thought that they would be pretty transparent.

Cheers - N

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#3212128 29-Mar-2024 17:51

Talkiet:

That's a really interesting snippet I was unaware of! None of them? Or the one that I randomly took a pic of?

I thought that they would be pretty transparent.

Cheers - N

None I have tried have had anything to do with vlans - no options, and dont just pass all of them like cheap switches sometimes do.

There may be some out there that offer it as options but anything I have had the mispleasure of dealing with had a very basic UI that just seemed to let you pair other devices for the key.

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#3212148 29-Mar-2024 19:25

The powerline adapters depend on the type of electrics in your house. The wiring will affect the speeds but good if you need to route traffic to a certain part of the house (just don't expect Gigabit)

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#3212195 29-Mar-2024 23:55

raytaylor:
Powerline units seem to shut down after power cuts, surges, instability or if the dog down the road pees on the wrong tree. Its normal to have to power cycle them every couple of weeks to get them to link up to each other again.

For my house, power cycling has been needed less than once a year.

Regards, John Little