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#312337 8-Apr-2024 08:39
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The Commerce Commission has today released its first “RealSpeed” report alongside its regular quarterly Measuring Broadband New Zealand (MBNZ) results – providing new insights into broadband performance in Kiwi homes.

 

Telecommunications Commissioner, Tristan Gilbertson, says MBNZ tests broadband performance to the router, while RealSpeed measures performance from the router to devices being used in the home – such as laptops, TVs, tablets and phones.

 

The results of the report show that, across all broadband technologies, speeds naturally drop between the router and devices being used in the home – but this drop is greater on faster plans, like Fibre and HFC (Hybrid Fibre-Coaxial), which drop more than 60%.

 

“While the top-tier plans delivered faster overall speeds to devices – and can support more bandwidth-hungry users in the same household – Wi-Fi performance can be responsible for much of the speed consumers are paying for being lost,” Mr Gilbertson says.

 

“It doesn’t matter how fast your connection is if your Wi-Fi set up isn’t up to scratch or if you’re being slowed down by an older device. You don’t want to buy a Ferrari-level of broadband and find yourself stuck in second gear –  so consider the location of your Wi-Fi router or investing in a new mesh system to unlock the potential of your plan.” 

 

Mr Gilbertson says it is also worth considering what you use your broadband connection for as well as the number of users and devices you have at home – “Our results show that paying a premium price isn’t always necessary to get the speeds you need.” 

 

The RealSpeed report can be viewed here for further insights on how to make the most of your home broadband – including information on the speed limits of some of the most commonly-used devices.  

 

Consumers can also sign up to become an MBNZ volunteer and get their own RealSpeed results by going to https://measuringbroadbandnewzealand.com/sign-up

 

Mr Gilbertson says the Commission is working with Consumer NZ to test the performance of different routers available on the market. This will compare devices supplied by service providers as well as common off-the-shelf options available for purchase in New Zealand. 

 

The results of Consumer NZ’s router testing are expected to be released later this year.

 





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  #3215433 8-Apr-2024 08:40
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freitasm:

 

The results of the report show that, across all broadband technologies, speeds naturally drop between the router and devices being used in the home – but this drop is greater on faster plans, like Fibre and HFC (Hybrid Fibre-Coaxial), which drop more than 60%.

 

“While the top-tier plans delivered faster overall speeds to devices – and can support more bandwidth-hungry users in the same household – Wi-Fi performance can be responsible for much of the speed consumers are paying for being lost,” Mr Gilbertson says.

 

“It doesn’t matter how fast your connection is if your Wi-Fi set up isn’t up to scratch or if you’re being slowed down by an older device. You don’t want to buy a Ferrari-level of broadband and find yourself stuck in second gear –  so consider the location of your Wi-Fi router or investing in a new mesh system to unlock the potential of your plan.” 

 

 

People here on Geekzone always say that the first thing people need to check when complaining about speed is inside their home.





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  #3215447 8-Apr-2024 08:55
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freitasm:

 

People here on Geekzone always say that the first thing people need to check when complaining about speed is inside their home.

 

 

"I am paying for gigabit but testing over Wi-Fi on a laptop with only an 802.11n adapter"





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  #3215515 8-Apr-2024 11:21
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Very relatable. Far too often I hear people complain that they upgraded from ADSL to fibre but it's no faster or more reliable, therefore the country should have stuck with copper and not wasted money on the fibre rollout... 





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  #3215519 8-Apr-2024 11:31
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Or in my brother's case, he is on 300/100 fibre and complains about the speed over wifi on his deco x20 mesh set up on wireless backhaul. 

 

He has Ethernet ports around the house for Ethernet backhaul but he couldn't be bothered/no time to figure out which port goes where.


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  #3215521 8-Apr-2024 11:32
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And probably the backhaul decided to use a 2.4 GHz channel.

 

 





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  #3215522 8-Apr-2024 11:34
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The results of the report show that, across all broadband technologies, speeds naturally drop between the router and devices being used in the home – but this drop is greater on faster plans, like Fibre and HFC (Hybrid Fibre-Coaxial), which drop more than 60%.

 

“While the top-tier plans delivered faster overall speeds to devices – and can support more bandwidth-hungry users in the same household – Wi-Fi performance can be responsible for much of the speed consumers are paying for being lost,” Mr Gilbertson says.

 

“It doesn’t matter how fast your connection is if your Wi-Fi set up isn’t up to scratch or if you’re being slowed down by an older device. You don’t want to buy a Ferrari-level of broadband and find yourself stuck in second gear –  so consider the location of your Wi-Fi router or investing in a new mesh system to unlock the potential of your plan.” 

 

Mr Gilbertson says it is also worth considering what you use your broadband connection for as well as the number of users and devices you have at home – “Our results show that paying a premium price isn’t always necessary to get the speeds you need.” 

 

 

I may have to request that instead of hold music for our Tech Support queue, we just put someone reading this snippet and see how many people hang up.


 
 
 
 

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  #3215612 8-Apr-2024 12:37
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cddt:

 

Very relatable. Far too often I hear people complain that they upgraded from ADSL to fibre but it's no faster or more reliable, therefore the country should have stuck with copper and not wasted money on the fibre rollout... 

 

 

That actually happened to use, despite new modem-router and a CAT 5 cabled connection to the router.  It turned out that our new UFB connection wasn't provisioned properly.  When we (out of sheer frustration) went to a lower speed UFB plan, speed and usability improved because it was reprovisioned at the correct speed. 





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  #3215664 8-Apr-2024 12:50
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freitasm:

 

People here on Geekzone always say that the first thing people need to check when complaining about speed is inside their home.

 

 

To sum it up in an image... taken from Page 8 of the April 2024 report

 

 

Although I dont think 90 units is a great number for tests. Even so... clearly "its your wifi" is main reason!


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  #3215666 8-Apr-2024 12:52
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My own dad simply can't stop himself signing up for BB with whoever turns up at the door and says they have the best deal ever and recently got signed up to Sky... He of course called me to figure out how to setup the Sky router when it turned up and to figure out if he was already being served by Sky I got him to run a speedtest and see what the website reported as his ISP (It was Sky)...

 

His result was 70 down / 104 up... I think we all know where this is going right? He was sold a 300/100 plan and his only PC is an old wifi connected PC upstairs with no inwall wiring.

 

But yeah - absolutely limited by in-home networking. This would make up 90% of the performance fault calls for fibre I'd say, maybe more.

 

Cheers - N

 

 





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  #3215669 8-Apr-2024 12:56
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nzkc:

 

freitasm:

 

People here on Geekzone always say that the first thing people need to check when complaining about speed is inside their home.

 

 

To sum it up in an image... taken from Page 8 of the April 2024 report

 

 

Although I dont think 90 units is a great number for tests. Even so... clearly "its your wifi" is main reason!

 

 

I'm actually surprised at the 19% below the 900 level for the Whitebox. I have a very strong reason to believe that even that number is being pessimistic and probably relates to non-optimal whitebox setup and the busy line detection not always working perfectly. I'd expect the "more than 900" category to be closer to 97-98%

 

Cheers - N

 

 





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  #3215670 8-Apr-2024 13:00
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mrgsm021:

 

Or in my brother's case, he is on 300/100 fibre and complains about the speed over wifi on his deco x20 mesh set up on wireless backhaul. 

 

He has Ethernet ports around the house for Ethernet backhaul but he couldn't be bothered/no time to figure out which port goes where.

 

 

 

 

My Ethernet Backhaul X20s getting 820Mbps Download and 480Mbps Upload to my PC (I do have a Wi-Fi 6 NIC with very wide channel antennas) but if he were to set it up properly he'd easily get his plan rated speeds. 


 
 
 

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  #3215677 8-Apr-2024 13:38
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The easiest way to remedy upload and download speed concerns on Fibre, HFC or wireless is to delete the Speed test Apps and bookmarks





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  #3215698 8-Apr-2024 15:21
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Been to a few new build houses and asked where the agent/developer where is the ethernet for all the rooms? Get the usual response there is a spot in the lounge hook for your WIFI router, that is all you need these days.

 

How much does it add to a newbuild anyways? $500-1000


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  #3215700 8-Apr-2024 15:25
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Chills:

 

My Ethernet Backhaul X20s getting 820Mbps Download and 480Mbps Upload to my PC (I do have a Wi-Fi 6 NIC with very wide channel antennas) but if he were to set it up properly he'd easily get his plan rated speeds. 

 

 

Yep, the X20 can easily achieve 300/100 no problems and I told him to spend sometime to trace the ports to the patch but he doesn't listen. 🤷‍♂️


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  #3215833 8-Apr-2024 18:47
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Talkiet:

 

My own dad simply can't stop himself signing up for BB with whoever turns up at the door and says they have the best deal ever and recently got signed up to Sky... He of course called me to figure out how to setup the Sky router when it turned up and to figure out if he was already being served by Sky I got him to run a speedtest and see what the website reported as his ISP (It was Sky)...

 

His result was 70 down / 104 up... I think we all know where this is going right? He was sold a 300/100 plan and his only PC is an old wifi connected PC upstairs with no inwall wiring.

 

But yeah - absolutely limited by in-home networking. This would make up 90% of the performance fault calls for fibre I'd say, maybe more.

 

Cheers - N

 

 

Your dad wouldn't need anything more than Home Fiber Starter probably. 





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