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Topic # 56893 27-Jan-2010 21:27
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Hi there

I am renovating the house and are looking at centralising the phone, adsl etc and have gathered lots of info on here to proceed (thanks sbiddle & cyril7)

the bit I am a little stuck with the old school phone wires that come into the house. I think I have tracked down the main wires and it seems they come from the power pole and into the house that way. Single wire as opposed to the three power ones that come into the house further down)

This wire then leads from the roof to a bit if a junction box on the wall and then under the house and back up again into a standard 2 wire BT box. there are three other phone points which then splits off to 3 other extensions from the main jack.

I am unsure however on what to do with this junction box?

can I just run this wire into a master soket that I put in my garage and then run an ADSL splitter off this with the intention to have the standard phone go to the patch pannel.

anyway I have attached a pic as the wire to me looks more like power than phone but its th eonly wire that comes into the main phone socket that comes from outside the house..

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  Reply # 293657 27-Jan-2010 21:54
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Odds are that's the wire coming in from the street. It would have had ceramic fuses in it in the old days for lightening protection.




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  Reply # 293668 27-Jan-2010 22:20
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Thanks Steve. I guess I can just bypass it now and feed directly into a new BT jackpoint that I will use as the test point as per your beginners DIY guide.

Did you have any recommented changes to your guide - further learnings you have had since it was written as I see its a year and a bit old (although its still the best I have found for a DIY like me)

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  Reply # 293684 27-Jan-2010 22:37
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sbiddle: Odds are that's the wire coming in from the street. It would have had ceramic fuses in it in the old days for lightening protection.




Lightening protection consists of multiple hamburgers. The old entry connection had fuses because aerial wiring could have mains contact and if lightning was likely spark arrestors that inserted below the fuses. You can see the earth connection for the arrestors at the very bottom.

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  Reply # 293729 28-Jan-2010 06:28
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I never really discussed installing a master ADSL splitter.

I really should update it a little when I have some time!



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  Reply # 294067 28-Jan-2010 19:02
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I think adding the step on adding the ADSL splitter would be a great addition to the guide Steve - although I am being a bit biased as I am wanting to install one of these ;)

I am hoping to make a start this weekend and get the cat5e from the comms cabinet (got a half height 19" rack of trademe for $50) in the basement to all areas of the house.

Still have to get a patch panel and switch yet but Trademe seems to have rack mounted 16 port switchs for less than $50. Dont think its worth the extra $ for gigabite just yet.

I want to replace the old black phone cable that goes to the fuse box as well. Seems to be a junction box under the house eves where the wire from the street goes to. From what I have read it looks like I just open this box remove the old wire that goes into the house and replace it with 2 x cat5e wire.

This then goes to the ADSL splitter and then to the patch panel in port 13 - 16 as per Steve's guide and a Test jack for the ADSL modem.

On the right track?
Any wiring guides on how I connect the 2 x cat5e to the outside junction box (demarkation point?)




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  Reply # 294079 28-Jan-2010 19:26
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flynkiwi: From what I have read it looks like I just open this box remove the old wire that goes into the house and replace it with 2 x cat5e wire.

This then goes to the ADSL splitter and then to the patch panel in port 13 - 16 as per Steve's guide and a Test jack for the ADSL modem.

On the right track?
Any wiring guides on how I connect the 2 x cat5e to the outside junction box (demarkation point?)

The demarc only has 2 wires that are active unless you have more than one phone line connected.

So ... you only need one CAT5e cable not two, and from that cable, you only need to use 2 wires, the other 6 will serve no useful purpose.  If you have some old 4-core phone cable lying around it would do the job, no need to use CAT5e really, but it maybe what you have the most of I guess.  It doesn't matter which way the 2 wires are connected either, so really there isn't any need for a wiring guide, it couldn't be simpler Smile





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  Reply # 294211 28-Jan-2010 23:35
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flynkiwi:
Still have to get a patch panel and switch yet but Trademe seems to have rack mounted 16 port switchs for less than $50. Dont think its worth the extra $ for gigabite just yet.


Gigabit is totally worth it.  I recently upgraded and will never go back.  If you transfer media files around your network you will really appreciate it.



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  Reply # 294230 29-Jan-2010 07:14
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What switch are you using FriedCrumpet?

Mainly streaming media from my media server to PS3 and XBOX with XBMC, although with the new media players coming on the market with hdmi output I may replace them with those.

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  Reply # 294258 29-Jan-2010 09:22
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Um, some 'green' D-Link 8 port switch I picked up on special from Harvey Norman I think. You know if you're just streaming video then actually I don't think Gigabit is going to help too much. But I tend to copy media files from my PC to my media box for storage after encoding, plus I have another server for storing all sorts of other files.

With Gigabit I'm routinely copying files at about 40-50MB/s (haven't tweaked anything yet, in theory it could be much faster). If someone gives me a USB drive with files to copy to my media PC I'll often just do it from my desktop since the network speed doesn't impact on the USB file transfer rate.

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