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# 70168 19-Oct-2010 19:03
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As Above I Live in Astral Pl In Cover Park And i think the best cabinet is MKY/AG
It gets A Vdsl Upgrade At the End of this year and i would like to know am i too far from it to get highspeeds
im on orcon and i get some good speeds 12mb Download/ 1Mb upload

I think its my modem ads i think its adsl i may need to get a adsl2+ modem soon
i am going to wait for the vdsl2 upgrade as i would like to see some faster speeds

oh by the way if i am on vdsl2 what will my speeds be anyway???

Thanks
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  # 393733 19-Oct-2010 19:12
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If you are already getting 12mb Download, You already Have a ADSL2+ Modem



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  # 393737 19-Oct-2010 19:16
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boby55: If you are already getting 12mb Download, You already Have a ADSL2+ Modem

Are you Sure?

I would like to know how fast will my speeds be in vdsl2 mode and if im to far from my Cabinet to get vdsl2


 
 
 
 


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  # 393753 19-Oct-2010 19:43
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mikenzb:
boby55: If you are already getting 12mb Download, You already Have a ADSL2+ Modem

Are you Sure?

I would like to know how fast will my speeds be in vdsl2 mode and if im to far from my Cabinet to get vdsl2



It doesn't look like you will be on any cabinet judging by that map, the polygons show where the cabinets cover.

If you are already getting 12Mbps then you are probably pretty close to the main exchange and your line is coming from there, and must be on ADSL2 (ADSL goes up to 8.1Mbps).

I'd guess on VDSL2 you will get around 28Mbps down / 12Mbps up, depends on the noise etc. on your line, have you already got a central splitter? (need a new one for VDSL2 anyway but if you don't have a splitter yet you might pick up a couple of Mbps on ADSL2 with one).

What are your modem stats? Last time I saw the Wholesale VDSL2 spec it needed under 10.8dB for a line to qualify.



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# 393755 19-Oct-2010 19:48
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Cymro:
mikenzb:
boby55: If you are already getting 12mb Download, You already Have a ADSL2+ Modem

Are you Sure?

I would like to know how fast will my speeds be in vdsl2 mode and if im to far from my Cabinet to get vdsl2



It doesn't look like you will be on any cabinet judging by that map, the polygons show where the cabinets cover.

If you are already getting 12Mbps then you are probably pretty close to the main exchange and your line is coming from there, and must be on ADSL2 (ADSL goes up to 8.1Mbps).

I'd guess on VDSL2 you will get around 28Mbps down / 12Mbps up, depends on the noise etc. on your line, have you already got a central splitter? (need a new one for VDSL2 anyway but if you don't have a splitter yet you might pick up a couple of Mbps on ADSL2 with one).

What are your modem stats? Last time I saw the Wholesale VDSL2 spec it needed under 10.8dB for a line to qualify.


A central splitter Uggggggh
Well I Stay on adsl2+ Then i am not going to rewire anything or add whatever i just stay with my modem then



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  # 393757 19-Oct-2010 19:56
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So is This How VDSL2 Works???

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  # 393758 19-Oct-2010 19:58
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This may explain some what of what you are wanting to know.


http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/7385

Even if you go with your vdsl plan, upgrade your hardware, your ISP ( IF they offer vdsl ) will charge you a heck of a lot for it.



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  # 393761 19-Oct-2010 20:07
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sheldonlendrum: This may explain some what of what you are wanting to know.


http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/7385

Even if you go with your vdsl plan, upgrade your hardware, your ISP ( IF they offer vdsl ) will charge you a heck of a lot for it.


Eh Its Ok i think i use adsl2+ for now

 
 
 
 


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  # 393773 19-Oct-2010 20:26
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As said. Pinkyorange = Exchange cover. No cabinet.

Only bright pink are cabinet areas, and green VDSL (adsl2+ fallback)

You won't get on a cabinet just cause its close, it doesnt work that way. They are installed close to pre-existing junction points and simply the houses off that junction are changed over. You have no choice on joining a close one etc.



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  # 393835 20-Oct-2010 03:54
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Oblivian: As said. Pinkyorange = Exchange cover. No cabinet.

Only bright pink are cabinet areas, and green VDSL (adsl2+ fallback)

You won't get on a cabinet just cause its close, it doesnt work that way. They are installed close to pre-existing junction points and simply the houses off that junction are changed over. You have no choice on joining a close one etc.


Ya Its all good anyways
i think they put up a new cabinet some where as a few weeks ago Not to sure tho. but oh well

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  # 393837 20-Oct-2010 04:51
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To get VDSL2 - you have to be not more than 1Km to the cabinet to qualify for a start.
Last I heard max speed for VDSL2 is up to 50mbps download.

Yea by looking at the map, you are already on ADSL2+ which can go up to 24mbps download and 3 mbps upload.
I have never seen anybody achieve 24mbps. The highest I have seen is 20mbps. There will be always a limitation regardless. However, you should be getting min of 10mbps on ADSL2+ if you are using ADSL2+ modem.








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# 393842 20-Oct-2010 06:11
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daman88: To get VDSL2 - you have to be not more than 1Km to the cabinet to qualify for a start.
Last I heard max speed for VDSL2 is up to 50mbps download.

Yea by looking at the map, you are already on ADSL2+ which can go up to 24mbps download and 3 mbps upload.
I have never seen anybody achieve 24mbps. The highest I have seen is 20mbps. There will be always a limitation regardless. However, you should be getting min of 10mbps on ADSL2+ if you are using ADSL2+ modem.






Ya i get 12 Mbs Download and 0.85mb upload not a Bad Speed
I Stay With Adsl2+ Undecided

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  # 393916 20-Oct-2010 11:21
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mikenzb:
boby55: If you are already getting 12mb Download, You already Have a ADSL2+ Modem

Are you Sure?

I would like to know how fast will my speeds be in vdsl2 mode and if im to far from my Cabinet to get vdsl2



ADSL can only do about 7.6megs, so you are getting a good ADSL2+ speed already and might get even better (if you are lucky) with a master ADSL splitter. Your area isn't cabinetised because you are close enough to the exchange so don't need it, although probably not close enough for VDSL2. If you could get VDSL2 speeds then you would already be syncing over 20megs with your current modem




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  # 394015 20-Oct-2010 15:09
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Yeah, so basically:

- You are connected to the exchange because you are closer to it than any of the new cabinets, ie: within ~1-2km of it
- You are on ADSL2+ getting a pretty good line rate of 12Mbit already
- If you got a master filter/splitter installed it may improve your current line rate by reducing the affect of noise and other problems in your internal wiring in your house.
- Telecom's VDSL2 service hasn't been fully launched yet so don't worry about it for now imo (VDSL2 will require a master filter be installed probably).
- For VDSL2 to give you higher line rate than ADSL2+ you need to have a low line attenuation (~10dB) which means you probably need to be <1km from an exchange or cabinet.

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