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#73805 22-Dec-2010 19:15
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I just wanted to share with Geekzone readers my experiences with my Aussie broadband provider.  I've just returned from Sydney, and honestly, trying to get back to a broadband service here is like being exiled to Eastern Europe (mind you, that's probably insulting Eastern Europe).  I got used to great customer service.  It's just painful coming back to NZ where companies seem to regard my wanting to be a customer as just a huge inconvenience to them.

So, the ISP that I chose was Internode and I got ADSL2+ because I lived in Macqaurie Park and wasn't very far away from the North Ryde exchange DSLAM.

They offered prompt, friendly service every step of the way.  They sent an SMS to my phone to let me know what was happening.  My first txt message told me that they had completed the work at the exchange, then they sent me a txt to tell me that the service was active and that I could try using it.  I also got an e-mail that contained everything I needed if I wanted to set it up myself.

Then again, even better, when I went to purchase my ADSL2+ Cisco Router from Dick Smith's it set itself up for Internode! My connection was going in about 5 minutes flat.  It was such a painless, wonderful experience, I almost cried with relief.

I never saw a downgrade in my speed, no matter what time of the day or night I was online.  It was consistently around 5 Mbps (sometimes even a little higher).  Basically it meant I could watch TV online from sites like ABC, Nine and Ten with no buffering (or minimal buffering).

I had a whopping 60 gigs per month for $49.95 per month on their Extreme ADSL2+ plan (bundled with a phone for $29.95 per month).  Even better, if I watched ABC online, the content was unmetered!  So that was essentially free TV viewing.

When I had to close my account, the customer service person was lovely and actually thanked me for being a customer.  I was sent a prompt e-mail saying they had arranged disconnection (and it stated the date) and again, the e-mail thanked me for being a customer.

Let's compare that with my last two days of trying to get my cable broadband service back with TelstraClear.  I was their customer for years, but the past two days of trying to arrange for someone to install the cable modem and provision the service has been a nightmare of mis-communication, long phone calls, being passed fro one person to another and being endlessly put on hold.  All because I wanted to reschedule the time and day (and it wasn't last minute - I'd tried rescheduling via e-mail and a phone call, none of which were actioned).

Now I'm going to have to figure out who else to go with (probably Telecom), but it's a depressing state of affairs. 

Anyway, it's nice to get great customer service.  I miss it :-(

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  #420598 22-Dec-2010 19:35
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Welcome back... To the land of the long white cloud and poor customer service.




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  #420599 22-Dec-2010 19:36
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We use Telecom for our broadband, and I have always found their helpdesk to be very helpful. When we joined we were kept up to date (through txts & calls) with being connected to the local exchange, the (free) modem was easy to set up and everything has been working perfectly.

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  #420601 22-Dec-2010 19:37
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Seriously though, I have heard good things from the Telecom helpdesk. I actually was invited to Auckland last year and saw how one of their helpdesk works and they put on a good show.





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  #420605 22-Dec-2010 19:49
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Then, you get stories like this....

http://damien-crankyramblings.blogspot.com/2010/04/australias-broaddband-internet.html

My experience with Telecom has always been good (but not their bills ha ha). although, their thomson modems leave something to be desired.


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  #420606 22-Dec-2010 19:51
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Thanks for the replies.  It sounds like I might dip my toe into the Telecom pond...  Can anyone give me an indication of their ADSL2+ speeds?  I checked and it looks like I'm within range of an exchange, but is it really ADSL2 or is that just what Telecom are calling it?

If you guys are getting decent consistent speeds then I might give it a whirl.

Thanks again.  I've been highly depressed since my arrival.  Every service I try to get connected (electricity, etc) seems to take twice as long, is twice the hassle and more expensive for less service.  Sigh... :-(

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  #420608 22-Dec-2010 19:57
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BYO: Thanks for the replies.  It sounds like I might dip my toe into the Telecom pond...  Can anyone give me an indication of their ADSL2+ speeds?  I checked and it looks like I'm within range of an exchange, but is it really ADSL2 or is that just what Telecom are calling it?

If you guys are getting decent consistent speeds then I might give it a whirl.

Thanks again.  I've been highly depressed since my arrival.  Every service I try to get connected (electricity, etc) seems to take twice as long, is twice the hassle and more expensive for less service.  Sigh... :-(



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  #420609 22-Dec-2010 19:57
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BTW, Cranky Ramblings was highly amusing to read.  Mind you, Aussies tend to complain at the tiniest of glitches...  In the office people were bemoaning their fate at the hands of the evil train service because it was five minutes late (and the train arrived every fifteen minutes anyway).

Mind you,I did do a lot of research before selecting Internode (which was slightly more expensive but highly recommended).  One ISP - TPG - offers ridiculously high gigs for low money, but then in the fine print it buries the fact that if you disconnect before two years are up, they charge a whopping (from memory) $299 for the disconnect.



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  #420610 22-Dec-2010 20:00
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Holy cow! That's speed test result is amazing! Thanks for posting VinLew.

Okay, I'm gonna take the chance and go with Telecom. Crosses her fingers and prays to the Broadband Gods... Heh.

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  #420612 22-Dec-2010 20:03
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Hi, I deal with connections for customers both domestic and commercial everyday, and can say that I have had nothing but good experiences with Telecom CSR's, they are helpful and in a majority of cases carry through with tasks they say they will put in action.

Sadly Telstra is a very different experience, and you seem to have found this.

Can anyone give me an indication of their ADSL2+ speeds? I checked and it looks like I'm within range of an exchange, but is it really ADSL2 or is that just what Telecom are calling it?


I dont know what you refer to by this last comment, the gear Telecom uses here is what the majority of major Telco's use worldwide. Check out the Telecom map site as linked below, this will help you understand what kind of speeds and DSL performance you can expect, but be aware a majority of NZ houses have very poor wiring (nothing different to Aus by the way) so if you want to get the best out of your DSL then get a central filter and dedicate line from the demarc to modem install.

www.telecomwholesale.co.nz/maps

What you cannot account for is the level of bandwidth that an ISP can deliver to customers. It seems that Aus is ahead in this respect with much lower contention ratios, where as here at peak time things can get a little.....dry. That said Telecom would probably be the best bet in that respect.

Edit, also be aware that Telecom have invested very big in a FTTN network, this means that line speeds (ie line length) is very much more optimal than in the old days, hence to get good ADSL2+ speeds is the norm not the exception.

Cheers
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#420614 22-Dec-2010 20:05
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BYO: Holy cow! That's speed test result is amazing! Thanks for posting VinLew.

Okay, I'm gonna take the chance and go with Telecom. Crosses her fingers and prays to the Broadband Gods... Heh.


I admit that I did that test right after we got switched to an ADSL2/+ cabinet, but our modem says 14.58/0.988 (down/up). We live pretty damn close to the local cabinet though.

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  #420615 22-Dec-2010 20:06
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According to Telecom, the average DSL line speed in wellington since the FTTN upgrade is over 15Mb/s. Here is my speedtest from Wellington central taken just now, and its typical most times of the day or night.





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  #420620 22-Dec-2010 20:13
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Welcome back!

I would recommend Snap for Broadband, their customer service is excellent and I have never had any problems with them. We also do Broadband (Plans: http://www.nzconnections.net.nz/Unleash) but things are a little bit more expensive, you are more-or-less paying for business class broadband + excellent support.

Since it's almost Christmas, things are a bit chaotic. Be patient. I am sure that everyone wants to get away to hang out with Family over these holidays.




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  #420629 22-Dec-2010 20:27
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Thanks again for all the very helpful information and comments. Cyril 7, I checked the wholesale map and it looks there is an installed ADSL2+ cabinet about 2ks from my place. I hope (if I've read the map correctly). I'll call Telecom tomorrow and double-check. If so, it won't be a sizzling pace but it should be fairly decent. Agreed on the customer service levels at TelstraClear. You'd think with their infrastructure investment, and Telecom getting good results with ADSL2, they'd be trying everything they could to keep customers...

VinLew - yep,being right on top of the cabinet is definitely an advantage... :-)

I could almost be getting my hopes up here... Heh.

I'll let everyone know how it turns out. Thanks again!


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  #420633 22-Dec-2010 20:46
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If you want to have a look at speeds, look no further than the ComCom Broadband Report 2010 (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=73698).

TelstraClear is the fastest ISP, and Johnsonville (where I live) is probably one of the best broadband areas in the country (perhaps my 100 Mbps connection tipped the scales?) ;)

But, yes, TelstraClear customer service is not the greatest - once you are in though it's pretty good.




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talk about Customer service, i recall there was a report around mid of this year that was actually slapped Telstraclear been the poorest (took the longest to get to a CSR)...forgot where was the article.
And they have closed their CS centre in NZ, haven't they? (to the Philippines?)

that's just the customer services part though, don't even want to go into broadband performance and value path....
and we have no hope to change the situation in the next decade probably.

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