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# 81178 9-Apr-2011 03:52
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Some browsing around these forums while trying to find a new ISP lead me to the following conclusions:

  • Slingshot's plans have terrible international speeds

  • Customer feedback on nznet is mixed


While searching for other plans I stumbled across "Carrier Grade Bandwidth" plans from Hosting Direct.  The only affordable plan for me on their list is the first one:


1Mbps Carrier Grade    1:1 CIR     $99 per month(exc gst)


At first glance 1Mbps seems quite slow.  However, I'm more concerned with the total amount of international data I can pull down in a month, not a high speed plan that rips through it's low data cap within a couple days.  Assuming 1Mbps consistent international down for 30 days that works out to roughly:

60*60*24*30 = 2,592,000 Seconds in 30 days

2592000*(1Mb/8)/1024 = 316GB

I realise its overly optimistic to expect to achieve 1Mbps all the time so the actual amount downloaded will probably be less.  Feel free to correct my math if I've messed up :)  90% of my traffic will be between a single server in Europe, which I manage, in the form of FTP.


My questions are as follows:

  • Are these plans available to residential customers?  I realise they're suited to businesses/ISPs but does that also means they're unavailable to general public?

  • Being that its "Carrier Grade" does that mean it's guaranteed 1Mbps even internationally?

  • Again, given the naming scheme, does that also mean the line will be completely untouched and not subject to any shaping/throttling?

  • Does a plan like this one require a homephone line?


If I've missed something obvious that makes this plan completely unworkable, then feel free to suggest alternatives, other then Slingshot and nznet, which could provide me with >100GB a month.


P.S. Sorry for the edits, first time poster struggling with formatting.

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  # 456953 9-Apr-2011 09:55
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A 1Mbps 1:1 CIR should mean 1Mbps 24/7. For $99 I'd only pick that being a 1:1 for national transit, nobody could sell a 1:1 international CIR for that price.

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  # 456957 9-Apr-2011 10:06
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This was debated on gpforums, where a few people in the industry pointed out exactly what sbiddle did. From memory there was some catch about it not actually being proper 1:1 CIR but i can't remember what it was.

Unfortunately i can't link it as all hostingdirect threads have been deleted due to the hassles which ben has caused (every thread turned into flaming and trolling).

I would personally suggest to avoid them, i'm yet to hear something positive about the company aside from them trying to undercut everyone else.


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  # 456967 9-Apr-2011 10:43
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They probably could provide that over DSL but they would also charge additional costs I'd imagine for the backhaul, handover etc costs they have to pay Telecom Wholesale.

I was actually contemplating on using this due to the cost but after posting on here and talking to Ben from HD decided it wasn't a good idea.

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  # 457046 9-Apr-2011 17:51
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eXDee: Unfortunately i can't link it as all hostingdirect threads have been deleted due to the hassles which ben has caused (every thread turned into flaming and trolling).

So let's hope there's no flaming or trolling here.

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  # 457113 9-Apr-2011 22:20
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I was talking to a guy that sold his microwave network to hosting direct and he put me on to them for getting some dedicated national / international at a great price.

Anyhow I was emailing one of the guys at HD and he said I had to be in auckland as I was interested in buying bandwidth and having them deliver it via SHDSL or DSL and delivering it to Napier.

After he said I had to be in Auckland, they stopped emailing me back.

Edit: Just seen they now have a note down the bottom where it says they will deliver via HSNS so Im gonna retry.
Edit2: He replied and I have given him address and line details :-) Looks like it might work for me. I saw Call Plus' prices a while back and they looked pretty good so I am hoping this isnt very expensive.

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