preparing for VDSL2 - splitter install questions

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newbellies

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#82709 4-May-2011 14:55

Hi Folks,

I've been reading the forums for how to go about getting a splitter installed to get improved broadband speeds and reliability. For others unfamiliar with splitters, my understanding (please correct me if I have this wrong) is that splitters are inserted before your phoneline jacks, resulting in a dedicated jack that can only be used for internet access. By bypassing all the internal phone jack wiring, you get a less noisy connection.

i spotted this thread:

According to that, sounds like Chorus will charge something between $199 and $300 for getting one installed.

Looking on telecom's wholesale pages about VDSL2, it says:
It is recommended that screened Cat.5e STP cable is used between the VDSL2 compatible splitter and the modem.

In preparation for VDSL2 I think I'd like to do that. Does this mean that they'd end up installing a RJ45 style jack right in the wall? If I rang Chorus to do the install, would they be equipped to do this?

Finally, I'm worried about getting new holes cut in walls, but I don't want cables run around doors or edges of walls either. Ideally, I'd like to get the internet jack (hopefully an RJ45 style plug) on the same face plate as the phone line. If I bought this faceplate (looks similar to what I have now, except no RJ45), do you think they'd be willing and able to replace my existing office phone jack faceplate with that? Or do I need to go with a local tradesmen for this instead?

Thanks!

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#465372 4-May-2011 18:40

My understanding is that a Chorus master filter install is still a standard BT jackpoint.

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newbellies

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#465418 4-May-2011 20:05

Ta for the reply.

That's unfortunate about not supporting RJ-45 jacks. I'm not obviously not network savvy, but if that's the case how would one comply with telecom's suggestion of "It is recommended that screened Cat.5e STP cable is used between the VDSL2 compatible splitter and the modem"?

(from the wholesale page on VDSL2)

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#465526 4-May-2011 23:43

In my house the VDSL Splitter has been placed inside of the little demark point (white box on wall).

The Chorus tech who did mine did a fantastic job, really shows he has pride for his work and used very high grade grease filled phone wire to run to the master jack point. He terminated the filtered line directly onto one of the existing RJ45 sockets in a quad RJ45 face plate. The RJ12 connection from the modem quite happily plugs into a RJ45 socket, and if you're not happy with the slight gaps on each side you can get the spacers from some hardware stores to fill the gap.

The tech then wired my phone line into one of the other RJ45 sockets and left me with an RJ45 to BT adapter for my phone.

newbellies

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#465570 5-May-2011 08:22

Cheers for the reply.

Having trouble wrapping my head around what that really means and looks like, but it may come to me after some more coffee. I completely understand if you're not keen for the hassle, but if you do have time and motivation, would you mind posting a picture?

I was hoping to avoid any of those external boxes mounted on the wall as I've used those clean silver brushed plates everywhere else for switches and plugs. Great to hear that the Chorus tech you dealt with didn't have the 'that'll do' mentality.

Thanks either way!

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#465720 5-May-2011 13:38

Hi, dont get concerned about the screen cat5e cable, its simply not required, however I do recommend that you keep the line cord from any untwised cat5 cable to the modem (ie faceplate to modem line cord) as short as possible. obviuosly cat5e or cat6 cabling from the demarc to the modem socket is a taken, or at least good condition unsplit/cut exisitng cat3.

When I do a master filter install I normally fit a RJ45 as the DSL socket, and BT's if thats what the rest of the existing wiring has, which in older homes is obviously always the case.

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#470580 18-May-2011 15:44

newbellies: Hi Folks,

I've been reading the forums for how to go about getting a splitter installed to get improved broadband speeds and reliability. For others unfamiliar with splitters, my understanding (please correct me if I have this wrong) is that splitters are inserted before your phoneline jacks, resulting in a dedicated jack that can only be used for internet access. By bypassing all the internal phone jack wiring, you get a less noisy connection.

If I'm able to use the phone on the dedicated jack, was it done wrong?

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#470639 18-May-2011 16:52

Hi, a DSL filter either a central one or a inline micro one has two ports, an input and an output, the output only passes voice, naturally the input will have both voice and DSL.

Therefore its normal to be able to use the voice on the dedicated DSL socket, however if you want proper DSL performance dont put a phone across the line of that socket without a micro filter. Ideally only the modem goes there.

So to conclude, a DSL modem infact connects directly to the inbound line, voice devices must connect via a filter either a central one or multiple inline ones, of which the former is the prefered method.

Cyril