Help putting in Master Filter

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jackfry

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#86516 7-Jul-2011 23:09

I recently changed lines from one to another and my speeds dropped

This is the line stats for the line that I changed over to;

http://postimage.org/image/13ifusns4/

And this is the original line that I swapped from;

http://postimage.org/image/13jcxjlno/

I was told that it would be wise to put in a Master Filter, Could anyone recommend me or point me towards one. Also are they easy to put in??

Thanks :)

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#491075 8-Jul-2011 13:44

Your ISP can arrange Chorus to come out and install a master filter, the charge is usually $199

Alternatively you can get your own local contractor to install one for less (usually)

If you want to DIY you need to be fairly confident and know a bit about data cabling.

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#491106 8-Jul-2011 14:31

Hi, you need to explain more, "you changed lines" I take it by that you moved the modem to another socket in teh house, or Chorus changed the pair you were on from the exchange, could you elaborate the sequence of events.

Cyril

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#491116 8-Jul-2011 14:59

So you had over 15Mb/s downstream line rate and dropped to less than 5Mb/s?
That’s quite a drop, but attenuation doesn’t seem to have changed much.
Like Cyril said, it would be interesting to know what sort of line change we are talking about here.

jackfry

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#491376 9-Jul-2011 12:25

cyril7: Hi, you need to explain more, "you changed lines" I take it by that you moved the modem to another socket in teh house, or Chorus changed the pair you were on from the exchange, could you elaborate the sequence of events.

Cyril

We had two phone numbers, one for broadband and the other just for the phone. We had kept the other line since dial-up and only just decided to get rid of it. So now the phone is on the same line as the broadband.

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#491388 9-Jul-2011 12:49

jackfry:
cyril7: Hi, you need to explain more, "you changed lines" I take it by that you moved the modem to another socket in teh house, or Chorus changed the pair you were on from the exchange, could you elaborate the sequence of events.

Cyril

We had two phone numbers, one for broadband and the other just for the phone. We had kept the other line since dial-up and only just decided to get rid of it. So now the phone is on the same line as the broadband.

Do you have a filter on every other device using the same phone line? If so, then perhaps there is something like an alarm still wired in. A master splitter would fix that if installed ahead of everything else on your line. What part of NZ are you in?

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#491411 9-Jul-2011 14:07

Hi as dwayne has mentioned if you have retained the existing house wiring but not put filters on each POTS (plain old phone device, ie phone, fax, skybox) then your speeds will be impacted.

But yes a master filter is always going to be the better solution to just having inline filters on each POTS device as that solution cannot deal with line stub issues.

Cyril

jackfry

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#491829 11-Jul-2011 01:29

webwat:
jackfry:
cyril7: Hi, you need to explain more, "you changed lines" I take it by that you moved the modem to another socket in teh house, or Chorus changed the pair you were on from the exchange, could you elaborate the sequence of events.

Cyril

We had two phone numbers, one for broadband and the other just for the phone. We had kept the other line since dial-up and only just decided to get rid of it. So now the phone is on the same line as the broadband.

Do you have a filter on every other device using the same phone line? If so, then perhaps there is something like an alarm still wired in. A master splitter would fix that if installed ahead of everything else on your line. What part of NZ are you in?

Just have two phones plugged in which I just put filters on and it put my speed up but still 5 mbits less than it was before. I dont have a house alarm either. I would be interested in getting a master splitter though. I'm located in Blenheim.

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#491849 11-Jul-2011 08:10

Hi, do a call around a few sparkies, ask for ones who do data cabling and phone work, or give Telephone House in Redwood st a call ask who they can recommend, other than that Chorus will do it for $199, and independant (as suggested) might do it for a bit less.

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#491890 11-Jul-2011 09:58

cyril7: Hi, do a call around a few sparkies, ask for ones who do data cabling and phone work, or give Telephone House in Redwood st a call ask who they can recommend, other than that Chorus will do it for $199, and independant (as suggested) might do it for a bit less.

Cyril

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$199 for a $30 piece of hardware and 10misn work is pretty steep... find a friendly sparkie and off them cash or beer :)

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#491909 11-Jul-2011 10:36

Hi Gavin, while thats true, if you have to get in the roof or under the house to pull a new cable, typically from woa to go is 45-60min is not more depinding on lots of factors.

Typically works out in the $100-150 region.

Cyril

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#492207 11-Jul-2011 21:06

Have seen that Marque Magnetics is now selling the MM-3200B ADSL and the MM-3400A VDSL direct with free shipping too and bulk buy discounts

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#492224 11-Jul-2011 22:02

PM me, I can organise keen prices on VDSL2 filters.

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#492271 12-Jul-2011 03:15

There are also people selling the Dynamix ones for $25-28ish buy now on trademe these days, but Cyril may be able to beat that.

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#492278 12-Jul-2011 06:59

cyril7: Hi Gavin, while thats true, if you have to get in the roof or under the house to pull a new cable, typically from woa to go is 45-60min is not more depinding on lots of factors.

Typically works out in the $100-150 region.

Cyril

And the hunt around all the jack points, under / over house searching for the non-demarc demarc point. It can take longer for sure.

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