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#93055 12-Nov-2011 12:07
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Hi People!

Had an interesting convo with a drunk party goer last night.

The parts that i could understand or where the speech was sufficiently not slurred, he said he works for the company that is doing the trenching and ducting for the UFB project. He told me their team are now in Hamilton and have been doing some in the Lake Road area.

Anyone in Hamilton noticed this type of activity? Might drive over there for a nosey. 




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  #544653 12-Nov-2011 17:58
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Sorry to spoil your exclusive, but it's public knowledge:

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/hamilton-it-scene-ultra-fast-starts-now

Choice quotes:
"The contract stipulates that UBL must complete the roll out by July 2016."

Interesting because this is much earlier than Chorus' (iirc) 2019 deadline

?We?ve got to maintain a pace of 2km of (deploying fibre) network every working day for five years, about 3,000 kms of network across the whole region,? says Hobson.

Pretty insane really. And it will be like this all over NZ! Can't wait.

 
 
 

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  #544654 12-Nov-2011 18:08
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Thanks Publius!

What I actually meant was the actual physical work in Hamilton starting.

Apart from the confirmation of the awarding of the which I think went to WEL Networks in Hamilton, there was no confirmation of when the physical work would start




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  #544663 12-Nov-2011 18:28
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It started months ago I thought? I think its business as usual for WEL?




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  #544665 12-Nov-2011 18:32
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I think you will find final contracts were only signed a few weeks ago

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  #544666 12-Nov-2011 18:46
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Norton Road i've seen work on both sides with orange ducting going down, also Te Rapa area around The Base

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  #544970 14-Nov-2011 09:16
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Yes the work is underway and there are lots of trucks and drills about. There are lots of rolls of the blown fibre tubing on the back of trucks too.  I compared the work to their maps at http://www.ultrafastbroadband.co.nz/coverage-areas/hamilton and it looks like they are ahead of schedule.

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  #545029 14-Nov-2011 10:40
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Also around Hamilton lake I've noticed fibre going in.
Of note, I'm not sure what they are called in fibre terms but the equivalent of the grey "posts" associated with the Chorus copper network, I've not seen any of those popping up in areas where fibre is going in



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  #545154 14-Nov-2011 13:38
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DjShadow: Of note, I'm not sure what they are called in fibre terms but the equivalent of the grey "posts" associated with the Chorus copper network, I've not seen any of those popping up in areas where fibre is going in


When they put the fibre in, they are laying a single tube from the large bunch of tubes that run along the footpath, to the boundary of each house but leaving it buried. When a customer signs up they connect onto it and extend it into the house. There won't be any of the grey plinths with fibre.

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  #545174 14-Nov-2011 14:34
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Any idea what the actual pipes look like? When i was around Te Rapa i noticed they seem to be doing some trenching but it was blue pipe,wondered if it was water pipe, maybe 300-400mm in diameter perhaps?

Not too clued up on what types of pipes are used for what.

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  #545176 14-Nov-2011 14:36
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wired:
When they put the fibre in, they are laying a single tube from the large bunch of tubes that run along the footpath, to the boundary of each house but leaving it buried. When a customer signs up they connect onto it and extend it into the house. There won't be any of the grey plinths with fibre.


Reading the Chorus brochure I interpret it  that this last 5- 10 metres to get it from the boundary into the house will be done by Chorus.  Is this considered to be part of the roll-out or will the customer be charged for it?

Then the Provider will likely charge for the ONT and RGW.  Then there's the cost to set up the star wiring box.

I'm pretty excited that my home address is on the map for 'year 1' roll-out but looks like it's not going to be cheap.

Also, to settle a discussion, can some confirm that fibre will go all the way into the home, not just to the boundary with a copper/coax tail into the house. ( I know ONT stand for Optical Network Terminal so that pretty much confirms it,  I would just like to hear someone else say itSmile)




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  #545177 14-Nov-2011 14:38
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Hi, yes fibre will enter the house to a location appropriate to the owner and Chorus.

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  #545472 15-Nov-2011 09:18
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floydbloke:

Reading the Chorus brochure I interpret it  that this last 5- 10 metres to get it from the boundary into the house will be done by Chorus.  Is this considered to be part of the roll-out or will the customer be charged for it?

Assuming that you are in a Chorus area, then it would be done by Chorus. If in Hamilton, it would be done by whoever UBL uses etc.

No the residential customer will not be charged for it, that is, it is a free connection for a standard install. If it is a business or something special then there will be a charge. The list of wholesale charges can be found at http://www.crownfibre.govt.nz/publications-and-tenders/retail-service-providers.aspx at the bottom of the page. For example, if you are a business then the connection charge is twice the monthly rental.

Don't know what a standard install is but it probably excluded people that have their houses over a certain distance from the boundary with the road.

The ISP may have their own setup charges.

floydbloke:
Then the Provider will likely charge for the ONT and RGW.  Then there's the cost to set up the star wiring box.

I'm pretty excited that my home address is on the map for 'year 1' roll-out but looks like it's not going to be cheap.

Also, to settle a discussion, can some confirm that fibre will go all the way into the home, not just to the boundary with a copper/coax tail into the house. ( I know ONT stand for Optical Network Terminal so that pretty much confirms it,  I would just like to hear someone else say itSmile)


The ONT is part of the fibre install and residential get that for free from the LFC however the RGW is provided by the ISP and there may be charges for that. Yes there would be a charge for the star wiring box if you want to install that - but that isn't covered by the fibre rollout.

Yes fibre is all the home but the handover to the residential customer is the copper port on the ONT (which may go into the RGW).

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  #545546 15-Nov-2011 11:13
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Thanks Wired. Very comprehensive answer.




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