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MrHappy8D

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# 96516 29-Jan-2012 19:47

Hi,

I'm posting a thread here to ask for suggestions as to what ISP I should go with.
My situation is I am about to flat with 3 other people, most of us our gamers, we like downloading a lot and enjoy high speed internet. At this moment price doesn't matter to me but speed does and for a good amount of gb. I know there are unlimited plans but the speed is totally gimped to the point where its just not worth it. Which is why I am asking for suggestions from this community, do you know of an unlimited plan that is actually good? Or high gb plans with good speed for an affordable price?

I will be living in Newtown, Wellington, trying to organise this before we dedicate ourselves to telecom or something.

This is a website that I found which organises and compares different ISP's:
http://ispfind.co.nz/list.php?minupstream=200&mindownstream=2000&mincap=10000&maxprice=90&sort=price

I know I can see the facts on that website but lets be honest, ISP's can say they give high-speed internet and its as slow as dialup. What stood out to me the most on that website was this:

http://www.worldnet.co.nz/personal/dsl/?menu=price

Because of the cheap prices and high amount of gb, as well as the same upload and download speed as telecom I was curious as to whether it was truly that fast. I've never heard of this ISP until now which is why im asking in case anyone has advice or suggests somwhere better.

I appreciate any time spent on my question and if there's something I've missed or you have a question, tell me so I can answer here, would love responses.

Thanks.

P.S - If this doesn't belong in this forum I apologise, my ISP us undefined which is why I've come here.

sbiddle

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# 574699 29-Jan-2012 19:57

All of the data on that website looks very old since it's only showing ADSL speeds, not ADSL2+

As for maximum speeds that'll depend on your distance from the exchange/cabinet and more importantly the quality of the wiring within your home if you're using DSL. If you look at TelstraClear cable (which you have made no mention of), speeds are consistant and upstream is faster than ADSL2+

You should look at www.telme.org.nz for comparisions. If you want probably the best deal around in terms of speed and caps then Hosting Direct's Geekzone VDSL2 deal can't be beaten.

Since you haven't really defined what you want to pay or what size cap you're looking at it's pretty hard for anybody to give any real suggestions.

MrHappy8D

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# 574700 29-Jan-2012 20:04

I appreciate that website www.telme.org.nz, going to check that out now!

Since 4 people will be living in the flat including me, well I can't put a price on internet :P. $80 a month is $20 per person, i'd go further than that with no real care as long as it's a high amount of gb and good speed, I just have to be able to play my dam league of legends in peace!

I believe I have ADSL2 wiring in the house, from what "Hosting Direct" tells me. I have never heard of a TelstraClear cable, I feel quite noob.

Looking into telme.org.nz and hosting direct website, I saw some good plans that I wouldn't mind paying the extra cash for, high speeds is great too, I wish NZ would get internet like Australia has some unlimited bandwidth plan and some dude downloaded 1.3TB in a month... so jealous.

Edit: Telme suggested Slingshot. I have heard so much crap about this company and after looking at their website they have actually big plans now? The 250gb for $80 seems crazily cheap, are they really highspeed internet or just crap?

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# 574701 29-Jan-2012 20:10

Slingshot have had a spotty track record in the past but in recent times their AYCE (un-metered) plan actually has a surprisingly good reputation.

I believe they changed how frequently they review and add more international transit/bandwidth and they changed to a cheaper international transit provider (Pacnet Lite) so they can provide more for less.

It's quite a good choice for a flat situation imo.

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# 574703 29-Jan-2012 20:13

MrHappy8D:
I believe I have ADSL2 wiring in the house, from what "Hosting Direct" tells me. I have never heard of a TelstraClear cable, I feel quite noob.

If you want performance then TelstraClear cable comes out tops in virtually every survey.

As foer your houst having "ADSL2 wiring" your house may be capable of getting ADSL, but the quality of the internal wiring will potentially impact speeds. The installation of a master filter is virtually essential if you want the best performance as it gets rid of plug in filters and eliminates reflections from daisy chained jackpoints.

MrHappy8D

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# 574714 29-Jan-2012 20:34

I appreciate the responses :).

Looking at slingshot section of the forums and in the later posts I've seen some good responses and improvements from switching from telecom to slingshot (that is scarily amazing because I remember how crap they were with my friends internet).

This is the first I've heard of master filters. I will be renting at this house and most likely trying out these slingshot deals, either the large 250gb plans or unlimited to compare it with what i have now with telstraclear at my dads house. If I notice the internet speeds with slingshot being absolutely crap, would you suggest talking to the landlord to ask for a masterfilter to be put into the wiring or just having it checked or what? I ask because I've never gotten into the field of wiring with internet, have no idea what lowers the quality of wiring for ADSL etc, going to google some answers now haha.

Speed would ultimately be faster with the 250gb rather than the unlimited on slingshot right? Any idea how big the difference is? Would sharing an unlimited plan with 4 people in turn make the internet for one person significantly slower if everyone is using it? Im asking because Im only assuming that with the internet it gets split between people when used at the same time but I dont know this for certain.

chevrolux

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# 574728 29-Jan-2012 21:03

My bid would be for either of Hosting Direct's specials they are running on here at the moment. Either the VDSL or ADSL prices cant be beaten. I am currently with telecom as I get a discount but on the hosting direct special I would get more data and it would be cheaper.
I will be ringing them monday to see how long the prices will last for, thats my only concern about these deals.

mattwnz

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# 574749 29-Jan-2012 21:43

chevrolux: My bid would be for either of Hosting Direct's specials they are running on here at the moment. Either the VDSL or ADSL prices cant be beaten. I am currently with telecom as I get a discount but on the hosting direct special I would get more data and it would be cheaper.
I will be ringing them monday to see how long the prices will last for, thats my only concern about these deals.

But for how long will that cheaper price apply? Its a month by month rolling contract by the looks of it, so they could potentially hike their pricing after a few months. With other ISPs you usually get a 12 month contract, which provides more certainty on pricing.
This website is better for finding pricing. http://www.telme.org.nz/telme

NZCrusader

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# 574943 30-Jan-2012 13:58

Stay away from worldnet.

Their speeds were rubbish. (although I was on their unlimited plan)

It is more the fact that their tech support blatantly lies on the phone, it takes ages for them to resolve an issue if you can even get through to them at all... and what sealed their fate with me is that they didnt disconnect me even when I asked.

So I kept being charged and they wouldnt give the money back.

Just not worth the hassle.

If speed is of the essence....

-Telecom

-Unleash (try their VDSL2) - their connections are business/premium grade for good prices, even the ADSL2+ service is good.

-Possibly try slingshot with two lines with AYCE or 250gb Capped plan on them each, running into a pfsense box for dual WAN.

-Telstraclear cable.

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MrHappy8D

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# 574988 30-Jan-2012 16:17

NZCrusader: Stay away from worldnet.

Their speeds were rubbish. (although I was on their unlimited plan)

It is more the fact that their tech support blatantly lies on the phone, it takes ages for them to resolve an issue if you can even get through to them at all... and what sealed their fate with me is that they didnt disconnect me even when I asked.

So I kept being charged and they wouldnt give the money back.

Just not worth the hassle.

If speed is of the essence....

-Telecom

-Unleash (try their VDSL2) - their connections are business/premium grade for good prices, even the ADSL2+ service is good.

-Possibly try slingshot with two lines with AYCE or 250gb Capped plan on them each, running into a pfsense box for dual WAN.

-Telstraclear cable.

I've heard there is little difference between the slingshot unlimited plan and the capped 250gb plan in terms of speed, will try the unlimited and then possibly upgrade if it is indeed too slow. Could you explainf or me the pfsense box / dual WAN so I can understand the point of it and what it does? Going to google answers anyway lol. And what do you mean by 2 lines? (Sorry if questions sound stupid).

Telstraclear cable is very good but the amount of gb i'd want is over 100 and I think it may be too expensive if a phone line is added on top of that.

I can't see any information on prices / plans with Unleashed? Went to unleash.co.nz and couldn't find anything.

Yeah if I went with worldnet I would go for the capped plans but even then I haven't heard great things from them, lately I've just heard good things from slingshot and their plans so I think ill give them a try. I can't tell if worldnet is VDSL2 either I think someone said before that they're still just DSL. But yeah if you could answer my questions that would be great.

crackrdbycracku

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# 575122 30-Jan-2012 22:49

Ok, the truth is that there is no one ISP that is better than all the rest. If there was the others would't have a business, right?

If you want speed the TelstraClear cable is the best by a long way. Anybody had TelstraClear cable and had better speed with another ISP? I've been on it for over a year and wouldn't go back.

Having said that it isn't the cheapest and isn't unlimited, yeah that's life.

Slingshot and the rest may be cheaper for more GB but they won't be as fast.

Landlords will not rewire your house so you can have better broadband, that's life also.

Didn't anybody tell you I was a hacker?

MrHappy8D

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# 575132 30-Jan-2012 23:38

Life sounds average atm :P.

Telstraclear does have boss speed, too bad im a student. I'll try slingshot and just go with what i've learn from this thread and other forums about ISP's. Thanks for replies guys.

NZCrusader

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# 575135 31-Jan-2012 00:07

MrHappy8D:
NZCrusader: Stay away from worldnet.

Their speeds were rubbish. (although I was on their unlimited plan)

It is more the fact that their tech support blatantly lies on the phone, it takes ages for them to resolve an issue if you can even get through to them at all... and what sealed their fate with me is that they didnt disconnect me even when I asked.

So I kept being charged and they wouldnt give the money back.

Just not worth the hassle.

If speed is of the essence....

-Telecom

-Unleash (try their VDSL2) - their connections are business/premium grade for good prices, even the ADSL2+ service is good.

-Possibly try slingshot with two lines with AYCE or 250gb Capped plan on them each, running into a pfsense box for dual WAN.

-Telstraclear cable.

I've heard there is little difference between the slingshot unlimited plan and the capped 250gb plan in terms of speed, will try the unlimited and then possibly upgrade if it is indeed too slow. Could you explainf or me the pfsense box / dual WAN so I can understand the point of it and what it does? Going to google answers anyway lol. And what do you mean by 2 lines? (Sorry if questions sound stupid).

Telstraclear cable is very good but the amount of gb i'd want is over 100 and I think it may be too expensive if a phone line is added on top of that.

I can't see any information on prices / plans with Unleashed? Went to unleash.co.nz and couldn't find anything.

Yeah if I went with worldnet I would go for the capped plans but even then I haven't heard great things from them, lately I've just heard good things from slingshot and their plans so I think ill give them a try. I can't tell if worldnet is VDSL2 either I think someone said before that they're still just DSL. But yeah if you could answer my questions that would be great.

Ok.

With Unleash. Ring and tell Cliff Crusader redirected you there. He will be able to sort you out with a quote. Try to get VDSL2+ if it is offered in your area.

*Unleash is mainly orientated at premium business grade DSL & fiber. But from what I understand they sell to enthusiasts / high speed demand users also.

If you want to take a look at a dual WAN solution (possibly more expensive), PM Privoxy on gpforums.
http://www.gpforums.co.nz/thread/440039/1/?s=e9352336b6a76a069c6a4681f564ddfa

He has a pfsense dual wan setup.

Im sure he can help you. *Unknown if he has a Geekzone account here.

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