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#97607 17-Feb-2012 18:08
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Good Morning all

Thought that I would blog my efforts in gaining a new broadband connection/plan.
I have looked around various forums and sites to try to gain insight into best plans, ISPs etc, and found (as you would expect) a huge variance. So hopefully this will track my experiences, and possible help some through the current minefield of ISP's and offerings.

I needed to get a broadband connection to our new residence as my partner and I will be studying on-line from the end of the month.

We decided ideal criteria to be -
Naked DSL as we have no home line requirement.
Start off with 30Gb plan to cover tutorial streaming - upgradeable
No contract
ASDL2 if possible
Budget of $75 - $85 per month.

I already own fairly current Dlink ADSL2 equipment - so new equipment not needed.
I have been around the IT world for a few years, so have a reasonable understanding of the environment.

So......

Background research showed ADSL2 available in my area http://www.chorus.co.nz/sat (Kerikeri central)
Contacted 8 ISP's directly by phone to personally establish details of connection and availability.

Interestingly quite a wide offering of plans from naked DSL through to requiring a phone/DSL package.

Narrowed down best match of criteria to be offered from Slingshot - $80 per month, naked DSL, $49.95 connection fee (the land line to our house does not have a current phone connection active) with a 12 month contract (early disconnect fee of $149) Also included 500 minute credit on iTalk a VOIP service.

All good – rang them back after discussing with my partner. Call answered quickly and all details and questions went through. Confirmed pricing, availability, ete, etc. All good.

Next day received a txt to contact their help desk. Did so, and after their customer care rep dug through their systems and talked to another person, I was advised that we would have to pay a further $20 per month for the agreed plan as we were classed as a “rural” connection. This was the first time that this was mentioned despite checking our residential address twice with them before signing up (we are less then 1km from the main Kerikeri exchange and Chorus' mapping facility http://www.chorus.co.nz/sat shows us as having ADSL2 direct from the exchange).

So.... cancelled service request with Slingshot.

Further digging around found Compass (I can hear you groaning from here), Naked DSL,Unlimited Gb, waived connection fee, ADSL2, $79.99 per month, cancellation fee of $99, and Customer Care Rep VERY helpful. Customer care rep said that she would give me time to think about it and call me back at 5:00pm.

I had read various forum posts (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=95563) regarding this company and we decided to give them the benefit of their contributor who stated that big changes had been made.

So...original customer rep called me back at 5:00pm ! So we signed up over the phone – all very painless. Approx 30mins later a further rep called me back to say she was calling just to confirm all the details and assure me that the service will be actioned ASAP. ( I had stated several times that I urgently need the service within 10 days – they responded with “no problem” )

Received an email from them within 10 mins confirming all details and providing me with A/c number, login, and temporary password, and a bunch of guides to configuring their various services. Of course I tried straight away to access my account on their web site ( http://www.compass.net.nz/ ). After registering for the on line access, received a new email welcoming me to their on line service and showing my account details.

 

So......watch this space




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  #582939 17-Feb-2012 18:32
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The rural/urban split was determined at the Commerce Commission and is based on the location of your exchange. Your exchange would have been classified as a rural one so a fee did apply.

However in November theCommerce Commission removed the surcharge, and instead established a midpoint price for all naked DSL connections (ie put up the urban price, reduded rural) so ISP's no longer pay a rural surcharge.




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  #582941 17-Feb-2012 18:41
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So.... where Slingshot entitled to change the playing field after we had gone through the signup process?





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  #582948 17-Feb-2012 19:19
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They should have been able to advise you of the extra $20 charge during the initially enquiry.

You didn't end up going with slingshot so no harm done I guess.



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#585232 22-Feb-2012 16:28
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Well...received email from Compass saying that my new connection will be up and running by the 23/2/12.
So being the true geek, hooked up my Linsys AM300, reset to factory defaults, and plugged it in.

Lo and behold DSL is up! Changed settings to VCP 0 VCI 100 and modulation mode to ADSL 2+, rebooted and had the following stats - any comments ? Any recommendations ?


Software Version:1.19.04ADSL Version: 7.2.3.0 Boot Code Version:0.01MAC Address: 00-22-6B-AA-3D-2B System Uptime: 00:00:04:00   DSL Status
      
DSL Status: UP DSL Modulation Mode: G.992.5 (ADSL2+) DSL Path Mode: INTERLEAVED Downstream Rate: 11225 Kbps Upstream Rate: 946 Kbps Downstream Margin: 12 db Upstream Margin: 13 db Downstream Line Attenuation: 35 Upstream Line Attenuation: 14 Downstream Transmit Power: 22 Upstream Transmit Power: 12 LOS Errors: 0

I will be checking tomorrow for PVC status and PPP login




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  #585568 23-Feb-2012 10:11
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Once it's up and running ask the ISP to turn off interleaving for a significant latency reduction (and sometimes a small line rate boost).

You can always ask them to turn interleaving back off if the line proves unstable.

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  #585678 23-Feb-2012 13:12
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Hi all, just confirmed new connection with Compass now live. I have loaded a few speed test results and current modem status for your comments. I have yet to fit master filter and dedicated DSL line to DSL modem yet (still raining !!)

Dosn't look like my speed is that great compared to others as this is a Full/Full connection - Any Comments?

Looks like my downstream rate is quite low considering how close I am to the exchange?


Software Version:1.19.04ADSL Version: 7.2.3.0 Boot Code Version:0.01MAC Address: 00-22-6B-AA-3D-2B System Uptime: 00:00:20:36   DSL Status
      
DSL Status: UP DSL Modulation Mode: G.992.5 (ADSL2+) DSL Path Mode: INTERLEAVED Downstream Rate: 7219 Kbps Upstream Rate: 946 Kbps Downstream Margin: 10 db Upstream Margin: 12 db Downstream Line Attenuation: 35 Upstream Line Attenuation: 14 Downstream Transmit Power: 22 Upstream Transmit Power: 12 LOS Errors: 0   PVC Connection
      
PVC Status: UP Encapsulation: RFC 2364 PPPoA Multiplexing: VC Autodetect: Disable VPI: 0 VCI: 100     














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  #585818 23-Feb-2012 17:11
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You should be able to get >10Mbit line rate on 30-35dB line attenuation like the line rates you posted earlier.

Personally I would look at a master filter/splitter install to remove internal house wiring as a factor.

Speedtest results won't always hit what your max line rate is, but should be close for tests to domestic destinations. It really comes down what the route is to the server for the ISP and whether their is any congestion for that ISP on handover links and domestic transit.

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  #586122 24-Feb-2012 09:51
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Hi Ragnor

Thanks for the comments - I have a master filter to install, was just waiting for the weather to improve as I will run a new cat 5e from the filter in the demark box to the modem.

I will post info after that

Cheers

Gollam




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